Leader

Collapse

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Overweight

Collapse

300x250 Mobile

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • cst.sb
    replied
    Originally posted by narc
    amen brother.....
    Speaking of "Amen". I'm praying for him! I'm praying that recruiter sees his immaturity and defers him for 2 years.

    Leave a comment:


  • narc
    replied
    [QUOTE=mobrien316]With all due respect, you need some time on the job before you can make statements like this and not sound like a know-it-all punk. The job and the stresses it puts on you always look easier to deal with from the far side of the fence.

    You need to walk a mile in someone's shoes before you criticize them. If you survive twenty years on the job and are still running every morning and not carrying any extra pounds, then and only then would you be able to justifiably denigrate anyone who doesn
    Last edited by narc; 08-29-2005, 10:45 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • mobrien316
    replied
    Originally posted by NYSPGreg
    one thing remains a constant. you are not as good of a shape as you could be and taking it on me for letting you know this won't rectify the situation.. SIR, ROBOCOP, SUPERCOP....

    I am all for learning and I'm looking forward to make it to the next academy class... I have never given myself any excuses when it came to what I want or what I wanna look like..

    maybe you think I am throwing stones and I shouldn't but I bet ya that if you put me with an obese (when I say obese I mean really XXXXXXXL.. fat too much weight obese... not just a bit large) cop and I guarantee you that he won't be able to cuff me by himself w/o having an heart attack...

    will I ever test any LEO's authority? of course not.. I respect and commend all of you guys... but think about it... not all bad guys are couch potatoes...
    With all due respect, you need some time on the job before you can make statements like this and not sound like a know-it-all punk. The job and the stresses it puts on you always look easier to deal with from the far side of the fence.

    You need to walk a mile in someone's shoes before you criticize them. If you survive twenty years on the job and are still running every morning and not carrying any extra pounds, then and only then would you be able to justifiably denigrate anyone who doesn

    Leave a comment:


  • NYSPGreg
    replied
    Originally posted by narc
    you do have a lot of opinions like you actually have done this job.....have you?......I've done your's...cst. is right comparing the military and police life are apples and oranges. I knew a sgt. who went out for the SF assessment...the doc on his physical told him that he was obese ( obviously over the body fat)...what this doc didn't know was that this Sgt. busted a 300 on his PT test every time and could PT you into the dirt. What are the weight standards now ....when I was in at 5'10" , 184 and a 280 on the PT test I was overweight and taped every time. I eventualy left active duty after ten years of being taped and a FAT FAT weight(accordign to the army) of 196.


    hey your right excuses excuses......get of your butt and into the gym. what irks me is that you actually have the heuvos to really throw stones at REAL COPS when in reality you're not even a ROOKIE, BOOT or even a TRAINEE.....you SIR are actually a.... let me say it a... CIVILIAN .


    piece of advice lose the "I know it all tude" or you won't make it out of FTO. ........i've "been there done that".

    BTW .....I'm a fatty.....wow news flash.
    never did I mention kowing it all... and why would it matter if I am a rookie, civilian or have 9084395279803475980423759 years of experience as a LEO?

    one thing remains a constant. you are not as good of a shape as you could be and taking it on me for letting you know this won't rectify the situation.. SIR, ROBOCOP, SUPERCOP....

    I am all for learning and I'm looking forward to make it to the next academy class... I have never given myself any excuses when it came to what I want or what I wanna look like..

    maybe you think I am throwing stones and I shouldn't but I bet ya that if you put me with an obese (when I say obese I mean really XXXXXXXL.. fat too much weight obese... not just a bit large) cop and I guarantee you that he won't be able to cuff me by himself w/o having an heart attack...

    will I ever test any LEO's authority? of course not.. I respect and commend all of you guys... but think about it... not all bad guys are couch potatoes...

    Leave a comment:


  • narc
    replied
    Originally posted by NYSPGreg
    thanks your socialist government for paying welfare to your clients in canada (like I really cared how you guys get paid up there)

    so the cop who takes the time to stay fit and takes care of his physical shape doesn't have a family, wife, or children to go to after a shift? or he doesn't work the 13, 14 or 15 hr shift you work?


    I have to grow up? sure y not

    but you have to stop finding excuses for your excess weight and just hit the gym. I bet you that if you excercised as much as you're typing excuses here you would be fit in the nick of time.

    and about the military??? I won't even start explaining to you that not all of us servicemembers go hiking with a rucksack... some of us have office jobs but are still required to stay fit... but it would be difficult for you to comprehend. maybe thats how your armed forces operate up there... who knows. and besides boot camp, we are not told when to sleep or to eat... geez... typical comment from a civilian

    ftlaudcop I totally agree with you. it seems like it's the obese ones that are whiners, complainers and moaners. just look at this thread...
    you do have a lot of opinions like you actually have done this job.....have you?......I've done your's...cst. is right comparing the military and police life are apples and oranges. I knew a sgt. who went out for the SF assessment...the doc on his physical told him that he was obese ( obviously over the body fat)...what this doc didn't know was that this Sgt. busted a 300 on his PT test every time and could PT you into the dirt. What are the weight standards now ....when I was in at 5'10" , 184 and a 280 on the PT test I was overweight and taped every time. I eventualy left active duty after ten years of being taped and a FAT FAT weight(accordign to the army) of 196.


    hey your right excuses excuses......get of your butt and into the gym. what irks me is that you actually have the heuvos to really throw stones at REAL COPS when in reality you're not even a ROOKIE, BOOT or even a TRAINEE.....you SIR are actually a.... let me say it a... CIVILIAN .


    piece of advice lose the "I know it all tude" or you won't make it out of FTO. ........i've "been there done that".

    BTW .....I'm a fatty.....wow news flash.
    Last edited by narc; 08-29-2005, 04:19 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • NYSPGreg
    replied
    thanks your socialist government for paying welfare to your clients in canada (like I really cared how you guys get paid up there)

    so the cop who takes the time to stay fit and takes care of his physical shape doesn't have a family, wife, or children to go to after a shift? or he doesn't work the 13, 14 or 15 hr shift you work?


    I have to grow up? sure y not

    but you have to stop finding excuses for your excess weight and just hit the gym. I bet you that if you excercised as much as you're typing excuses here you would be fit in the nick of time.

    and about the military??? I won't even start explaining to you that not all of us servicemembers go hiking with a rucksack... some of us have office jobs but are still required to stay fit... but it would be difficult for you to comprehend. maybe thats how your armed forces operate up there... who knows. and besides boot camp, we are not told when to sleep or to eat... geez... typical comment from a civilian

    ftlaudcop I totally agree with you. it seems like it's the obese ones that are whiners, complainers and moaners. just look at this thread...
    Last edited by NYSPGreg; 08-29-2005, 06:54 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • ftlaudcop
    replied
    I been working with a guy...born in 1947
    he was ex special forces,big red one..101 ab,,
    he's been in uniform since 64 army to cop....
    I met him in 86, when he was 38 at 5-8 280 pounds,
    blamed everything on quitting smoking, but always had a stromboli
    in one hand and a calzone in the other, and a constant complainer.

    also work with a guy born in 1962, when i met him in 86,
    he wa 175 or 180, now 375 or more , a overtime whore,
    and spends ungodley amount of money on fast foods.

    I started in 83 195-200 , and i get bent outta shape if i go over 200..

    my agency is hired a certified guy at age 32 he weighs 436 pounds

    all the common items: whiner's, complainers...sheesh will it ever end.

    for exercise....do a little, is better than doing nothing.


    www.schackdaddy.com

    Leave a comment:


  • cst.sb
    replied
    Originally posted by NYSPGreg
    u wanna talk about irregular shifts, and irregular workplaces? try being in the military.About the food??? have you tried one of the military's chow halls? or when we're stuck in the field, them so great MREs?? Servicemembers CANNOT slack on their fitness level REGARDLESS of their tour of duty or work shifts.

    Wanna be or not I will criticize somthing I don't see it fit. Would you not say something if the guy flipping burgers at McDonalds doesn't wash his hands coming off the bathroom, or doesn't wear a net for his hair??? And thats even if you're a wanna be manager?

    Well all you sworn in officers out here... LIKE IT OR NOT... You bet I will say something if I see a bent out of shape LEO out there...

    If you cannot stay fit then maybe it wasn't the job for you in the first place.

    Excuses are for LOOSERS... get yourself a Bowflex.... damn.. do a few sets of sit ups and push ups when u wake up or before going to bed... run a few times a week...

    Also remember that part of your salary is paid by that wanna be paying taxes and it is also your duty to protect and serve that wanna be. You have a better chance of protecting and serving that wanna be being IN SHAPE, not being obese, bent out of shape and arrogant, trying to find an excuse for that excess weight. UNACCEPTABLE. Can't have your cake and eat it too (literally)

    I don't give any servicemember or any LEO "credit" for staying in shape.. you know why? because you're SUPPOSED to. It's part of your DUTY to stay in shape as you are a government's asset to better carry on your mission (whether your mission is to perform with a full gear in the middle of Iraq or run and catch a criminal in small town america as fast as possible)

    **waiting for the next excuse**
    Wow, not even in the academy yet and you seem to not it all! That's great.

    Most of us work 12 hour shifts, which really aren't 12 hours, they are 13, 14, 15 hour shifts depending on whether or not you arrest someone at the end of the shift or not. Then after work you commute home, you don't walk over to the barracks or the mess for a beer, you drive home turn into a parent, and then try and get a couple hours sleep before doing it all over again.

    There are no scheduled mess hall lunch breaks and dinners, you aren't told when to sleep and when to eat, there are no MREs, and as a cop you aren't putting on a rucsack and hiking mountian sides in Trashcanastan all day long.

    As a cop your office is going to be your car, and if you have a partner, they get a say in where you eat. (When you are on RFT you get no say). Most patrol shifts involve either standing or sitting, both not real great for expending calories.

    Comparing the Armed Forces to the Policing is like comparing Apples to Oranges. They are just not the same.

    There are some proactive police departments out there, like the Vancouver Police Department that realize this job is hard on the body and encourage their members to come off the road for an hour, to go for a run or workout. It would be great if every department did that.

    One last thing, Ummm, most of our clients don't pay tax. It's our taxes that pay for their welfare and social programs.

    *Waiting for people to grow up*

    Leave a comment:


  • bgofast72
    replied
    Wow, a lot of great replies. I can see everyone's point on the subject even if I agree or disagree. Thank you all very much and I guess I can say I stand on the side of any law enforcement person be in or stay in shape. If I were still able to be in law enforcement though, you would never have to worry about me being your partner or backing you up. I would always protect you or anyone at any time 24/7, whether or not I was overwight or obese. Thanks for your great comments either way they fall.

    -Brad

    Leave a comment:


  • NYSPGreg
    replied
    Originally posted by Entre Nous
    You said, "It's all about your lifestyle (thanks to the military I've acquired a pretty healthy one)" I don't know many cops who can say, "Thanks to being in law enforcement, I've acquired a pretty healthy lifestyle." An officer who stays in shape does it on his own, despite the odds. I have no idea how much self-motivation is required to stay in shape in the military, so I won't comment.

    Tee hee...What if you get a fat FTO?
    just the fact taht you wear a uniform and you are directly involved with the public should be enough of a motivation to stay in shape... well thats in my opinion... I could not be a LEO or even in the military if I had to order my uniforms XXXL and still have them snug tight on me. I could not be in a cruiser, or on foot patrol and have people look at me like I would pose no threat to them (if it wasn't for the tools on my belt) if they ever challenged my authority.

    We cannot all look like superman. But all of us individually can certainly be in top shape and look in shape too.

    lack of self-motivation because of your irregular shifts, or because your cop career doesn't encourage you to stay in shape still is a lame excuse to be obese.

    **waiting for next excuse**

    Leave a comment:


  • Entre Nous
    replied
    You said, "It's all about your lifestyle (thanks to the military I've acquired a pretty healthy one)" I don't know many cops who can say, "Thanks to being in law enforcement, I've acquired a pretty healthy lifestyle." An officer who stays in shape does it on his own, despite the odds. I have no idea how much self-motivation is required to stay in shape in the military, so I won't comment.

    Tee hee...What if you get a fat FTO?

    Leave a comment:


  • NYSPGreg
    replied
    [QUOTE=Entre Nous]All of the overweight officers I know are over 40 and it
    Last edited by NYSPGreg; 08-28-2005, 04:19 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Entre Nous
    replied
    All of the overweight officers I know are over 40 and it

    Leave a comment:


  • narc
    replied
    Originally posted by Centurion44
    I agree. I think law enforcement agencies should be required to have annual PT tests like the military.



    And making excuses show lack of a sense of responsibility.



    Don't put fat guys in quotation marks. There's no accusations going on. We're talking about fat officers. People in the military have had to do worse things to their bodies and they are still held by a annual PT test. If you take care of your body in the first place your far less liable to get blown disks, bad hips, or even lower the extent of injuries because your body is more conditioned.



    Great mentality. I'm in less than ideal shape, I'm not going to lie. I could stand to run a couple more miles a week and maybe do a few more push ups. But I do feel that if things broke bad I'm in shape enough to protect me and mine and that of my fellow officer. And I'm sure as hell am not going make a crappy excuse like "Eh, the world's not perfect." That's great. I hope I'm not in the fight for my life and end up getting killed because some fat *** with that mentality ran out of breath before he got on scene.
    I've seen as many in shape LOADS as I have out of shape LOADS.....just cause your built like a brickouthouse does not a good cop make.

    Leave a comment:


  • NYSPGreg
    replied
    overweight

    whether this comment came from a wanna be, applicant, LEO or anyone else IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

    Your physical health and appearance says alot about who you are and how you take care (or not) of yourself. People come in different size and shape but becoming overweight (or having extreme excess body fat) regardless of your height, shows that you lack discipline (either you don't work out enough or you don't watch what you eat).

    I mean COME ON PEOPLE. There is absolutely NO excuses for being overweight ESPECIALLY when you're a LEO or in the military. The military has a mandatory weight management program for those who can't seem to control their weight by the way.

    I don't give a rats *** if you sit in your patrol car 12 hours a day. If a business man of wall st who's job requires so much "physical fitness" (picking up a phone, sittin on his *** all day, being a paper b***** all day) can be in top shape then explain me why I see some cops on the street that I KNOW wouldn't be able to catch me w/o radio'in me in or with the help of a K9. I run 10 miles a week on average and of those 10 miles I sprint about 2... thats on top of my regular workout.

    It's all bout your lifestyle (thanks to the military I've acquired a pretty healthy one) and about self pride and pride in what you do. When I wear my BDUs or dress blues I look sharp and healthy. If I do make it to the LE world I will look sharp and healthy in my LE uniform as well. There will definitely be bigger and meaner looking dudes on the streets but they will find out that I'm in top shape and can take them down if they feel frisky and wanna dance with me.

    You're a freakin cop got damn it, you are an asset to your state, county, city or town government. So ACT like it and take care of yourself... Instead of acting all ****y because it is a wanna be who told your *** you're overweight, you should be ashamed of yourself for even letting ya *** inflate like that. Take responsibility for your own acts and stop eating cakes donuts or watever and RUN more do MORE push ups, sit ups, drink MORE water. Damn, just do something to help yourself. The last people I expect to give me an excuse and blame others are those put in a position of authority.

    NO EXCUSES especially when your job description REQUIRES YOU to be in top shape. It could be a life and death difference one day...
    Last edited by NYSPGreg; 08-28-2005, 01:08 PM.

    Leave a comment:

MR300x250 Tablet

Collapse

What's Going On

Collapse

There are currently 4376 users online. 272 members and 4104 guests.

Most users ever online was 158,966 at 04:57 AM on 01-16-2021.

Welcome Ad

Collapse
Working...
X