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  • #31
    Wow, a lot of great replies. I can see everyone's point on the subject even if I agree or disagree. Thank you all very much and I guess I can say I stand on the side of any law enforcement person be in or stay in shape. If I were still able to be in law enforcement though, you would never have to worry about me being your partner or backing you up. I would always protect you or anyone at any time 24/7, whether or not I was overwight or obese. Thanks for your great comments either way they fall.

    -Brad

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    • #32
      Originally posted by NYSPGreg
      u wanna talk about irregular shifts, and irregular workplaces? try being in the military.About the food??? have you tried one of the military's chow halls? or when we're stuck in the field, them so great MREs?? Servicemembers CANNOT slack on their fitness level REGARDLESS of their tour of duty or work shifts.

      Wanna be or not I will criticize somthing I don't see it fit. Would you not say something if the guy flipping burgers at McDonalds doesn't wash his hands coming off the bathroom, or doesn't wear a net for his hair??? And thats even if you're a wanna be manager?

      Well all you sworn in officers out here... LIKE IT OR NOT... You bet I will say something if I see a bent out of shape LEO out there...

      If you cannot stay fit then maybe it wasn't the job for you in the first place.

      Excuses are for LOOSERS... get yourself a Bowflex.... damn.. do a few sets of sit ups and push ups when u wake up or before going to bed... run a few times a week...

      Also remember that part of your salary is paid by that wanna be paying taxes and it is also your duty to protect and serve that wanna be. You have a better chance of protecting and serving that wanna be being IN SHAPE, not being obese, bent out of shape and arrogant, trying to find an excuse for that excess weight. UNACCEPTABLE. Can't have your cake and eat it too (literally)

      I don't give any servicemember or any LEO "credit" for staying in shape.. you know why? because you're SUPPOSED to. It's part of your DUTY to stay in shape as you are a government's asset to better carry on your mission (whether your mission is to perform with a full gear in the middle of Iraq or run and catch a criminal in small town america as fast as possible)

      **waiting for the next excuse**
      Wow, not even in the academy yet and you seem to not it all! That's great.

      Most of us work 12 hour shifts, which really aren't 12 hours, they are 13, 14, 15 hour shifts depending on whether or not you arrest someone at the end of the shift or not. Then after work you commute home, you don't walk over to the barracks or the mess for a beer, you drive home turn into a parent, and then try and get a couple hours sleep before doing it all over again.

      There are no scheduled mess hall lunch breaks and dinners, you aren't told when to sleep and when to eat, there are no MREs, and as a cop you aren't putting on a rucsack and hiking mountian sides in Trashcanastan all day long.

      As a cop your office is going to be your car, and if you have a partner, they get a say in where you eat. (When you are on RFT you get no say). Most patrol shifts involve either standing or sitting, both not real great for expending calories.

      Comparing the Armed Forces to the Policing is like comparing Apples to Oranges. They are just not the same.

      There are some proactive police departments out there, like the Vancouver Police Department that realize this job is hard on the body and encourage their members to come off the road for an hour, to go for a run or workout. It would be great if every department did that.

      One last thing, Ummm, most of our clients don't pay tax. It's our taxes that pay for their welfare and social programs.

      *Waiting for people to grow up*

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      • #33
        I been working with a guy...born in 1947
        he was ex special forces,big red one..101 ab,,
        he's been in uniform since 64 army to cop....
        I met him in 86, when he was 38 at 5-8 280 pounds,
        blamed everything on quitting smoking, but always had a stromboli
        in one hand and a calzone in the other, and a constant complainer.

        also work with a guy born in 1962, when i met him in 86,
        he wa 175 or 180, now 375 or more , a overtime whore,
        and spends ungodley amount of money on fast foods.

        I started in 83 195-200 , and i get bent outta shape if i go over 200..

        my agency is hired a certified guy at age 32 he weighs 436 pounds

        all the common items: whiner's, complainers...sheesh will it ever end.

        for exercise....do a little, is better than doing nothing.


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        • #34
          thanks your socialist government for paying welfare to your clients in canada (like I really cared how you guys get paid up there)

          so the cop who takes the time to stay fit and takes care of his physical shape doesn't have a family, wife, or children to go to after a shift? or he doesn't work the 13, 14 or 15 hr shift you work?


          I have to grow up? sure y not

          but you have to stop finding excuses for your excess weight and just hit the gym. I bet you that if you excercised as much as you're typing excuses here you would be fit in the nick of time.

          and about the military??? I won't even start explaining to you that not all of us servicemembers go hiking with a rucksack... some of us have office jobs but are still required to stay fit... but it would be difficult for you to comprehend. maybe thats how your armed forces operate up there... who knows. and besides boot camp, we are not told when to sleep or to eat... geez... typical comment from a civilian

          ftlaudcop I totally agree with you. it seems like it's the obese ones that are whiners, complainers and moaners. just look at this thread...
          Last edited by NYSPGreg; 08-29-2005, 07:54 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by NYSPGreg
            thanks your socialist government for paying welfare to your clients in canada (like I really cared how you guys get paid up there)

            so the cop who takes the time to stay fit and takes care of his physical shape doesn't have a family, wife, or children to go to after a shift? or he doesn't work the 13, 14 or 15 hr shift you work?


            I have to grow up? sure y not

            but you have to stop finding excuses for your excess weight and just hit the gym. I bet you that if you excercised as much as you're typing excuses here you would be fit in the nick of time.

            and about the military??? I won't even start explaining to you that not all of us servicemembers go hiking with a rucksack... some of us have office jobs but are still required to stay fit... but it would be difficult for you to comprehend. maybe thats how your armed forces operate up there... who knows. and besides boot camp, we are not told when to sleep or to eat... geez... typical comment from a civilian

            ftlaudcop I totally agree with you. it seems like it's the obese ones that are whiners, complainers and moaners. just look at this thread...
            you do have a lot of opinions like you actually have done this job.....have you?......I've done your's...cst. is right comparing the military and police life are apples and oranges. I knew a sgt. who went out for the SF assessment...the doc on his physical told him that he was obese ( obviously over the body fat)...what this doc didn't know was that this Sgt. busted a 300 on his PT test every time and could PT you into the dirt. What are the weight standards now ....when I was in at 5'10" , 184 and a 280 on the PT test I was overweight and taped every time. I eventualy left active duty after ten years of being taped and a FAT FAT weight(accordign to the army) of 196.


            hey your right excuses excuses......get of your butt and into the gym. what irks me is that you actually have the heuvos to really throw stones at REAL COPS when in reality you're not even a ROOKIE, BOOT or even a TRAINEE.....you SIR are actually a.... let me say it a... CIVILIAN .


            piece of advice lose the "I know it all tude" or you won't make it out of FTO. ........i've "been there done that".

            BTW .....I'm a fatty.....wow news flash.
            Last edited by narc; 08-29-2005, 05:19 PM.
            "here's to us and those like us .....damn few left"

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            • #36
              Originally posted by narc
              you do have a lot of opinions like you actually have done this job.....have you?......I've done your's...cst. is right comparing the military and police life are apples and oranges. I knew a sgt. who went out for the SF assessment...the doc on his physical told him that he was obese ( obviously over the body fat)...what this doc didn't know was that this Sgt. busted a 300 on his PT test every time and could PT you into the dirt. What are the weight standards now ....when I was in at 5'10" , 184 and a 280 on the PT test I was overweight and taped every time. I eventualy left active duty after ten years of being taped and a FAT FAT weight(accordign to the army) of 196.


              hey your right excuses excuses......get of your butt and into the gym. what irks me is that you actually have the heuvos to really throw stones at REAL COPS when in reality you're not even a ROOKIE, BOOT or even a TRAINEE.....you SIR are actually a.... let me say it a... CIVILIAN .


              piece of advice lose the "I know it all tude" or you won't make it out of FTO. ........i've "been there done that".

              BTW .....I'm a fatty.....wow news flash.
              never did I mention kowing it all... and why would it matter if I am a rookie, civilian or have 9084395279803475980423759 years of experience as a LEO?

              one thing remains a constant. you are not as good of a shape as you could be and taking it on me for letting you know this won't rectify the situation.. SIR, ROBOCOP, SUPERCOP....

              I am all for learning and I'm looking forward to make it to the next academy class... I have never given myself any excuses when it came to what I want or what I wanna look like..

              maybe you think I am throwing stones and I shouldn't but I bet ya that if you put me with an obese (when I say obese I mean really XXXXXXXL.. fat too much weight obese... not just a bit large) cop and I guarantee you that he won't be able to cuff me by himself w/o having an heart attack...

              will I ever test any LEO's authority? of course not.. I respect and commend all of you guys... but think about it... not all bad guys are couch potatoes...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by NYSPGreg
                one thing remains a constant. you are not as good of a shape as you could be and taking it on me for letting you know this won't rectify the situation.. SIR, ROBOCOP, SUPERCOP....

                I am all for learning and I'm looking forward to make it to the next academy class... I have never given myself any excuses when it came to what I want or what I wanna look like..

                maybe you think I am throwing stones and I shouldn't but I bet ya that if you put me with an obese (when I say obese I mean really XXXXXXXL.. fat too much weight obese... not just a bit large) cop and I guarantee you that he won't be able to cuff me by himself w/o having an heart attack...

                will I ever test any LEO's authority? of course not.. I respect and commend all of you guys... but think about it... not all bad guys are couch potatoes...
                With all due respect, you need some time on the job before you can make statements like this and not sound like a know-it-all punk. The job and the stresses it puts on you always look easier to deal with from the far side of the fence.

                You need to walk a mile in someone's shoes before you criticize them. If you survive twenty years on the job and are still running every morning and not carrying any extra pounds, then and only then would you be able to justifiably denigrate anyone who doesn
                Cogito ergo summopere periculosus.

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                • #38
                  [QUOTE=mobrien316]With all due respect, you need some time on the job before you can make statements like this and not sound like a know-it-all punk. The job and the stresses it puts on you always look easier to deal with from the far side of the fence.

                  You need to walk a mile in someone's shoes before you criticize them. If you survive twenty years on the job and are still running every morning and not carrying any extra pounds, then and only then would you be able to justifiably denigrate anyone who doesn
                  Last edited by narc; 08-29-2005, 11:45 PM.
                  "here's to us and those like us .....damn few left"

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by narc
                    amen brother.....
                    Speaking of "Amen". I'm praying for him! I'm praying that recruiter sees his immaturity and defers him for 2 years.

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