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  • hemicop
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    Greeny, I can only tell you what we do in Phx. Assuming All was as you say, without a complainant or order from a supervisor or an aggravated situation we'd simply tell you to get out. Our tickets DO just say "time" on them & that refers to the time of occurence. Was the clock in the patrol car wrong?Possibly. That's a question for the courts to decide. Should they have transported 5 people in the back of a car? Of course not! The 2 officers that stopped you, regardless of gender, may have been on a curefw or park enforcement detail so they were obligated to enforce some particular codes. Could they have been more thourough? Perhaps. But careful what you wish for, you may not like the outcome. Does your city's police agency have a quota or "squad average" their officers must meet? It sounds like the officers did their job in the quickest way they knew how but MAY have left some legal and safety issues open. Do yourself a favor--forget this stuff and go to the AF Academy

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  • Rally
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    Have to admit. When I read you first post about playing "tag" a flag came up. Eight 18 year olds playing tag? OK I'll give you that.
    You weren't charged with tresspassing, so why talk about it? It would of been a good charge. Curfew was a good arrest too. Like mentioned before curefew is a status offense so only a juvenile can be charged with it. That's why they let the adults go. Did your brother have ID? If not how are they supposed to know? And the time on the ticket is usually the time it was written. I an officer pulls someone over for speeding, it would be difficult to know the exact time the officer determined the violation. Instead it's the time the officer put the pen on the paper. And tresspassing is a general intent crime, so it doesn't matter if you saw the signs or not. You were there when the park was closed? An excuse to get out of speeding ticket couldn't be, "I didn't see the speed limit sign".
    You didn't say anything about it. But did one of the eight of you start to mouth off?

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  • BufordTJustice
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    Originally posted by greeny
    Well the fact that they got a citation for breaking curfew when they weren't. So yes, the time. And also saying that everyone they let go was eighteen when my twin was taken in and not me.

    I understand that in this situation, the discrepencies were not that big of a deal. But it makes me wonder what else they would be willing to fabricate to make sure they don't look bad. It's a slipperly slope...

    Have a good day everyone!v
    The hell with the curfew citation......should just have taken everyone for trespassing. At least then you probably wouldn't have felt alienated.

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  • cst.sb
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    Ok Booger, opps.. I meany greeny..

    I just just tired to take a digi cam picture of my wrist watch, the watch I use when make notes that will end in court, and my cell phone. An exercise that just woke my 37.5 week pregnant wife up. In doing so I learned two things one, while pregnant my wife has super hearing, and two, my cell phone time is 7 minutes slower than my watch.

    Now Greeny, I appreciate answering my questions.

    Ok, so the original twin comment was misleading. You and you're brother look completely different. All that means is the officer made a mistake and should have taken you "downtown"

    I have never in my life seen a quiet 8 person game of tag in my life, well maybe while driving by the deaf school.

    Two things I have an issue with is the accusation of lying and the alienation. Firstly what gives you the right to feel inclusion in the police world? I don't doubt for a second you are a smart kid, in fact, that's fairly obvious. I do however think you need to a huge amount of growing up before joining the military.

    Now, maybe I am just a lazy cop, but I have honestly never banged up "youths" that bad - tickets and rides to the office.(which in the grand scheme of things isn't bad at all) So my guess, is that one of you friends earned that response for you guys

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  • narc
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    Originally posted by greeny
    pm for you gotthblues Chill out man, you sound like a just shot your kitten or something.

    god your a whiner......look out air force academy....ya probably won't last a quarter.

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  • Duke
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    To elaborate, I think you blatantly LIED about playing tag. You're kidding, right? Is that seriously the best line you could come up with? Buddy, we get bullsheet hurled at us everyday and that story is stinking the place up. Therefore, I look at all your other statements with a high degree of speculation.

    Therefore, you are an untrustworthy, no good, LIAR.

    See...it sucks when people come to conclusions about your character based on an assumption. Maybe you'll think about that next time you call someone a LIAR for possibly making a clerical error (if it was at all) on your friend's ticket.

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  • Duke
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    Why would anybody over age 12 play tag at midnight, in winter (in Minnesota no less), in a public park? That whole thing is just weird...

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  • Creeker
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    Originally posted by greeny
    ...I never complained about the break I was given. I complained about blatant lies made by a police officer. I don't care if they let someone off for murder, a police officer should NOT LIE. And the unsafe transportation. It seems highly hypocritical that MN police can pull over someone for not wearing a seatbelt, and give them a ticket, and the next minute be stuffing five people in the back of their car.
    Check your definition of blatant. 20 minutes does not BLATANT make. Is it blatant to believe one thing when the reality is that you are close, but not exactly right? If so, I think you are blatantly ignorant about the facts of life and the breaks you were given.

    Cops should not lie? Right. When your fraternal twin is found murdered (God forbid) by an unknown suspect, I think that you will forgive the cop that gets a confession after promising the suspect a cigarette after the suspect confesses, then renigs on the cig. I can't wait until you get into the Military college and have that attitude. "What do you want as an MOS?" "Where do you want to be stationed?" " "We have a Uniform that we will tailor to fit you." Lets watch the results while you whine, "They BLATANTLY lied to me!"

    In my state, Emergency Vehicles are exempt from seat belt rules and can transport toddlers outside of child seats, etc. in an emergency situation. Definitions of what constitutes an "Emergency" can vary by city, department, and even shift Supervisor. I guess this could be a BLATANT violation of the Websters Dictionary definition of "Emergency". Maybe the word "exigent" should be used instead.

    Additionally, it is probably Hypocritical in your strict definition of terms for a MN cop to exceed the speed limit to chase down a speeding violator. Or go undercover and act like a drug user in order to catch a drug seller. I could go on...

    Grow Up.

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  • gotthblues
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    Originally posted by greeny
    pm for you gotthblues Chill out man, you sound like a just shot your kitten or something.
    what, your the one making a big deal about the officers watch not being the same as yours, and them calling them liars for it, you asked for an explanation, well there it is!

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  • greeny
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    pm for you gotthblues Chill out man, you sound like a just shot your kitten or something.

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  • gotthblues
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    Originally posted by greeny
    Well the fact that they got a citation for breaking curfew when they weren't. So yes, the time. And also saying that everyone they let go was eighteen when my twin was taken in and not me.

    I understand that in this situation, the discrepencies were not that big of a deal. But it makes me wonder what else they would be willing to fabricate to make sure they don't look bad. It's a slipperly slope...

    Have a good day everyone!v
    okay, well, were i work i can see, umm, 6 clocks, and none of them are the same, when i was on patrol, i had 4 clocks in my car, (wrist watch, pager, cell phone, and dash clock, make that 5, video camera clock). none of them were the same either. just cause clocks show different times, doesnt mean that they are lying, my gosh, act your age, im sorry, thats just pathetic,
    could every single juvi with you guys have all gotten home within 10 minutes, doubt it unless you all lived on the corner. so even if they had went with your watch, the juvis still would have been in violation of the curfew. besides, they go with their watch so that everything they do, they can refer to their watch, it would be kinda difficult to use the watch of every single person they come into conflict with. again, grow up. the other poster was right, we know your type, you are a dime a dozen, you blame others for what you do and they must be wrong or lying, cause you possibly cant be in the wrong, nor can your friends. you are the type of person that gets a break then complains, i can count of one hand the number of people that complained after getting a ticket vs the ones that got off with a verbal warning. there is not point in even talking to "your type". cause you wont listen to anyone other than yourself.

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  • greeny
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    Originally posted by e-man
    OK,.OK A sense of humor is of utmost importance here. LOL..
    P.S.- over it YET????
    I'll admit that was funny.

    Ok sorry i'm done responding to my own thread for awhile.

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  • greeny
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    Well the fact that they got a citation for breaking curfew when they weren't. So yes, the time. And also saying that everyone they let go was eighteen when my twin was taken in and not me.

    I understand that in this situation, the discrepencies were not that big of a deal. But it makes me wonder what else they would be willing to fabricate to make sure they don't look bad. It's a slipperly slope...

    Have a good day everyone!v

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  • gotthblues
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    Originally posted by e-man
    OK,.OK A sense of humor is of utmost importance here. LOL..
    P.S.- over it YET????
    baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhh.
    U smart ***zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    U R killin me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • gotthblues
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    Originally posted by greeny
    People like you? You don't know me personally sir.
    I never complained about the break I was given. I complained about blatant lies made by a police officer. I don't care if they let someone off for murder, a police officer should NOT LIE. And the unsafe transportation. It seems highly hypocritical that MN police can pull over someone for not wearing a seatbelt, and give them a ticket, and the next minute be stuffing five people in the back of their car.
    check your laws, most say that if you are 16 or older and in the back seat, you do not have to wear a seat belt. not all but most states. which part did they lie about, the time? seriously.

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