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    Good Evening,
    I am a Graduate Student working on a Case Study. I have to do an analysis of a true case: The Cop and the Prostitute.

    The case concerns a Sgt. and a known prostitute/addict. The Sgt. had recently been awarded the departments Medal of Meritorious Service for his bravery in saving the life of a fellow officer during a drug bust gone bad.

    But, this was the second internal affairs investigation being conducted into the Sgt.'s relationship with the prostitute. He met her when he was working in Vice, and learned about her profession and habit, and decided to use her as a decoy to catch the leaders of the drug-trafficking rings.

    This began in 1998 through 2002. They had a social relationship, that eventually became intimate. He was constantly helping her when she got into trouble, and supporting her when she tried to kick her drug habit. She would sometimes stay at his house, and he even allowed her six-year old son to sometimes stay. And sometimes her four-year old also.

    He lent her his car to do some errands on a Friday, and didn't hear from her until that Monday night, minus the car. He wanted her to go to a shelter, she wouldn't, and was banging on his door, so he stated he called his Lt.. He finally let her inside, only to give her some blankets and inform her that she needed to go somewhere else, finally he contacted a shelter that came and picked her up. She called him the next day, and he told her that he could no longer help her.

    In June, 2002, he again contacted his Lt., (who was at home) to state that the woman was there at his house, and he could not get her to leave. The Domestic Abuse Responce Team (DART) was sent, and took the woman away. The Sgt.and the woman were ordered not to contact each other. He was advised by both his Captain and Lt., to stay away from the woman. But, he was not given a direct order, either in writing or verbally, to not see the woman.

    In 2002 also, after this advise was given to him, he picked the woman up and took her to an apartment to retrieve some of her things from a friend. This same apartment complex was under surveillance by undercover police officers, who traced the car as belonging to the Sgt. He was subsequently given a 40 day suspension w/o pay for violation of SOP 1-04-1, Personal Code Of Conduct, and 1-04-6, Conduct Both On and OFF Duty.

    Internal Affairs was again investigating him because of his personal relationship with this woman. The 2003-04 Investigation revealed: On 11/17/03, the Sgt. reported that his vehicle was not returned by the woman after loaning it to her on 11/15/03. On 11/16/03, while in the woman's posession, was listed as a suspect vehicle in a commercial burglary. The woman has an extensive criminal history of charges involving drug use, trafficking, theft, and prostitution. Only one of the charges resulted in an actual conviction. And there are no current felony investigations.

    The Sgt. admitted that he knew of her reputation at the time that he was previously disciplined for his involvement with her. He admitted to IA, that the woman had been staying at his home since the last part of 7/03, after he had gotten into trouble because of her visiting a drug dealer. And the reason for her staying at his home, SHE HAD A BABY FOR HIM... Seems, that she was pregnant when he was being disciplined by the IA the first time concerning her. He only told his LT., that the woman was pregnant. When asked about being given a verbal directive from The Captain and the LT., the Sgt. didn't see it as being a verbal directive, but as informal advice coming from two friends. He didn't sign any directive or order, except the Notice of Discipline he received in early 2003.

    Also, in 2002, he got a 40 hr. suspension, from the Deputy Chief. The Chief thought that this would end the relationship. But this was not a direct order, either verbally or in writing, asking his to stop his contact with the woman.

    As a final part of the IA's investigation, he decided to interview the woman. The woman stated that she loved the Sgt., she should have left him alone, and not jeopardize his career. That he is a very good man. When she was with him she was straight, and not the druggie and whore that others saw her to be. And she wanted to help him any way that she could. And asked if there was anything that she could do, to let her know. The IA said: "well, it's a difficult thing for us to do, to investigate one of our own officers". The Woman responded: "He doesn't deserve to be investigated, I do. I just want to know what's going to happen to him. He's a very good guy...., This guy really cares and wants to help. Do you know how many cops out there date hookers and they do this and do that? He's not like that. So why is this finger being pointed at him?".

    After the interview the IA came to the realization that he would be compelled by the facts to find the Sgt. had violated each of the departmental SOP's, as charged.

    With the case analysis I need to:
    1. state the reasons why I would either agree or disagree with the IA's decision to find the Sgt. guilty of violating the departments SOP's.
    2. If I, was the Captain or Lt., how would I have handled the situation with the Sgt. following the incident in 2002 at the apartment complex?
    3. To what extent should public employers be allowed to regulate off-duty behavior of employees, particularly police officers, without intruding upon an employee's constitutional right to privacy?

    I would appreciate any comments concerning the case from anyone. Or Law Enforcement officer who could give me their view/opinion on the case.

    Thanks,
    Student58
    Last edited by Student58; 06-29-2005, 02:00 PM. Reason: just want to remove this from the post

  • #2
    1. He should never have gotten involved with her. Thats a no brainer. She was a druggie crack whore - nuff said. The department was lenient if anything.

    2. The warning should have been in writing. A verbal warning doesn't carry as much weight.

    3. Obviously cops shouldn't be involved in crime or be associating with crooks outside of immediate family (we all have a black sheep or two). The only issue becomes defining a crook - how long does a person have to be reformed to not be a crook and similar questions. Beyond that if it doesn't affect the job then I personally believe the department has no business in my personal life.

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    • #3
      When do they go over paragraph structure in college? I could only read about have of that before my eyes started bleeding. Jesus.
      You have no right to not be offended.-Neal Boortz

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      • #4
        Shouldn't a graduate student be versed in the use of the paragraph?

        Seriously, I lost interest after the seventh line because I was going blind squinting at your scenario.

        Anyway, sounds like this guy was long overdue in getting the stick put to him, IMHO.
        Officer, I borrowed these pants!

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        • #5
          Not only does this person not know how to use paragraphs but they want us to do their homework for them.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Centurion44
            When do they go over paragraph structure in college? I could only read about have of that before my eyes started bleeding. Jesus.

            Holy Shiit! That was so f-ing funny! Strong work Centurion. I needed some extra rittalin to fight through that, and even then I had to tap out.

            Maybe someone should send that to Fear Factor so Joe Rogan can see if anyone can take that punishment.

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            • #7
              Thank You All for your comments.

              This was my first try at using this forum, and I must say my last. I have my case analysis already prepared, but wanted to get comments from other LE's. But I can see now that it all depends on the topic. But thank you anyway for the comments that were left for me.

              Thank you Connor, you gave a better response than some of the others. And I am not on welfare, so don't worry about your taxes being spent for my education. I am gainfully employed, full-time and take care of myself. I have a degree in Administration of Justice. And I will complete my Master's Program in May, with a Masters in Public Administration.

              So Thank You again, for your help.

              Have a Blessed Day, MAX, mach4, Duke and Centurion.
              [QUOTE=Student58]
              Last edited by Student58; 06-29-2005, 02:04 PM.

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              • #8
                LOL All that time in college and he can't tell between a sig file and a comment?

                What college you going to? More importantly, do they give a refund? You may qualify...
                You have no right to not be offended.-Neal Boortz

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                • #9
                  Damn guys, what is the problem? A person comes here asking for help and you find fault with his for his writing skills? Not only did you find fault with it, you made fun of him. Does that make you feel like you whipped him or make you a better man? Jesus, when I became a cop it was to help others and not judge them. That is for the courts to do, not me. I know that I am not pure by any means and I'm guilty of many things but jumping on someone that actually came and asked for help? Just not right Bro, just not right. Thanks to you attitude you have run off an individual to an area he is supposed to be welcomed in and probably made him think that all cops are idiots and jerks. Nice going. Frankly, the real professionals can do better without you. You give us a bad name.

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                  • #10
                    Damn guys, what is the problem? A person comes here asking for help and you find fault with him for his writing skills? Not only did you find fault with it, you made fun of him personally. Does that make you feel like you whipped him or make you a better man? Jesus, when I became a cop it was to help others and not judge or belittle them. That is for the courts or lesser men than me to do. I know that I am not pure by any means and I'm guilty of a great many things but jumping on someone that actually came and asked for help? Just not right Bro, just not right. Thanks to your attitude you have run off an individual to an area he is supposed to be welcomed in and probably made him think that all cops are idiots and jerks. Nice going. Frankly, the real professionals can do better without you. You give us a bad name.

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                    • #11
                      Sorry for the double post. Maybe you can pick on my skills? Then again, I don't give a rip.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cruiser
                        Damn guys, what is the problem? A person comes here asking for help and you find fault with him for his writing skills? Not only did you find fault with it, you made fun of him personally. Does that make you feel like you whipped him or make you a better man? Jesus, when I became a cop it was to help others and not judge or belittle them. That is for the courts or lesser men than me to do. I know that I am not pure by any means and I'm guilty of a great many things but jumping on someone that actually came and asked for help? Just not right Bro, just not right. Thanks to your attitude you have run off an individual to an area he is supposed to be welcomed in and probably made him think that all cops are idiots and jerks. Nice going. Frankly, the real professionals can do better without you. You give us a bad name.
                        Thank you Cruiser.

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                        • #13
                          Just a point of order the the future MBA here. IA does not decide on discipline or sustain cases. They are an investigative body. They gather information. The department head is the one who makes a finding as far as the disposition of a case and the discipline if any. If I was this guys chief, he would have went straight to the launch pad. It's amazng that guy was not fired.

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                          • #14
                            I am not sure about where this guy worked, but in any department that I have worked at, he would have been long gone, very fast.
                            In law enforcement, the customer is ALWAYS wrong.

                            In God we trust. Everyone else is run through NCIC.

                            Sometimes there is justice. Sometimes there is just us.

                            I'd rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6.


                            The opinions given in my posts do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, policies, and/or procedures of my employing agency. They are my personal opinions only.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cruiser
                              Damn guys, what is the problem? A person comes here asking for help and you find fault with his for his writing skills? Not only did you find fault with it, you made fun of him. Does that make you feel like you whipped him or make you a better man? Jesus, when I became a cop it was to help others and not judge them. That is for the courts to do, not me. I know that I am not pure by any means and I'm guilty of many things but jumping on someone that actually came and asked for help? Just not right Bro, just not right. Thanks to you attitude you have run off an individual to an area he is supposed to be welcomed in and probably made him think that all cops are idiots and jerks. Nice going. Frankly, the real professionals can do better without you. You give us a bad name.

                              I have to agree, I mean the lindahousenflucker and the hot chick thread was one was one thing, (and fun) but the repsonses here are just disrespectful and uncalled for.

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