Are police alone on this?

[savage4presiden]

Do you police officers find that you are often the only ones who hold higher standards/values/morals in comparison to average citizens? I'm just curious because it seems like nowadays anything and everthing goes. It seems as if a lot of people are just morally bankrupt. I'm curious to find out if you police officers identify with what I've just said, or if it doesn't make a lick of difference to you.

[Tinkertoys]

Do you police officers find that you are often the only ones who hold higher standards/values/morals in comparison to average citizens? I'm just curious because it seems like nowadays anything and everthing goes. It seems as if a lot of people are just morally bankrupt. I'm curious to find out if you police officers identify with what I've just said, or if it doesn't make a lick of difference to you.

I agree.
Especially gun nuts. I would never want to be outgunned, and CCW is bull.
-Tink

[JKump]

I believe that Police are held to a higher standard than oridanry citizens. When was the last time your boss was called because you were speeding? The call might come in even if the Officer is on Official business. Police Officers have to be weary of where they eat, what they drink, what they might say and who they are with. So the Officer must maintain the higher moral ground. It might not be because we want to but because we have to.

[zap]

I agree.
Especially gun nuts. I would never want to be outgunned, and CCW is bull.
-Tink

Yeah....but you can't blame that on second amendment rights. How does making everyone else LESS SAFE...make you MORE safe? I suggest that it does not. The bad guys are still bad guys regardless and irrespective of the right of other citizens to protect themselves.

I think you would be on the money to have said that what used to be a punch in the pie hole is now a shooting. That relates back to the original post...that peeps now days just don't seem to care, and are morally bancrupt.

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It does suck that you have to be so careful that someone doesn't call in a complaint for doing your job....or driving a little over trying to get someplace on duty without lights and siren. Those same people are prolly the ones who don't see anything when standing around when a shooting happens.

[WTPD3534]

I agree.
Especially gun nuts. I would never want to be outgunned, and CCW is bull.
-Tink

What in the hell does that have to do with being morally bankrupt?? CCW is not "bull" it is an important tool that allows law abiding citizens defend themselves as everyone should be able to. Criminals are always going to get guns, hence why they are criminals. Gun control laws only punish the good people.

[Slippery Pete]

CCW is not "bull" ...

Oh sure it's bull...

It's bull that anybody needs to get a permit to exercise a Constitutional right.

When are they going to start issuing licenses to criticize the government, or keep your house protected from unreasonable searches, or keep yourself from being owned as a slave?

[Bart]

It seems as if a lot of people are just morally bankrupt.

define morally bankrupt? i know there's alot of scumbags out there. but i can name a few white and ghetto trash cops too. i dont think anything has changed in the last 10 years.

[savage4presiden]

By morally bankrupt I mean they have no standards that they hold themselves to. No reason to live other than for themselves. They think society owes them and that they can take whatever they want for themselves. People who lie, steal, cheat, hate, and judge. Even people who claim to have "tolerance." People who are afraid to do what's right. People who have no compassion or are too prideful. In my book morals is doing what is right and treating other people fair/right too.

It's kind of a shame that there can be such a huge list for the bad things people do and such a short list for the good things. Oh well.

[Tinkertoys]

The thing is, people can carry around a gun and you cannot arrest them, if they decide to shoot, goodbye. I do agree that guns are a necessity to the populace as a matter of self defense, but automatic weapons and the like need to be banned.

-Tink

[SIGman1]

The thing is, people can carry around a gun and you cannot arrest them, if they decide to shoot, goodbye. I do agree that guns are a necessity to the populace as a matter of self defense, but automatic weapons and the like need to be banned.

-Tink

This has absolutley nothing to do with this thread. Go start this arguement someplace else.

[zap]

The thing is, people can carry around a gun and you cannot arrest them, if they decide to shoot, goodbye. I do agree that guns are a necessity to the populace as a matter of self defense, but automatic weapons and the like need to be banned.

-Tink

Why ban something that most people don't even know is legal to possess? Do the background and pay your $300.....and have the 30k to drop on a subgun. All there is to it. None of that matters though...cause most poeple do NOT have them.

Again....my argument is why focus on the rights of others, instead of the lack of moral backbone in a few who are the constant law breakers? This is what the problem really is. Lets face it, I can kill you without a weapon......even if you have one. After a half hour, of training, anyone could do the same (some more successfully than others)

........should you shoot me just in case?

[Tinkertoys]

Why ban something that most people don't even know is legal to possess? Do the background and pay your $300.....and have the 30k to drop on a subgun. All there is to it. None of that matters though...cause most poeple do NOT have them.

Again....my argument is why focus on the rights of others, instead of the lack of moral backbone in a few who are the constant law breakers? This is what the problem really is. Lets face it, I can kill you without a weapon......even if you have one. After a half hour, of training, anyone could do the same (some more successfully than others)

........should you shoot me just in case?

Lol, you do not learn to kill a trained attacker unarmed in thirty minutes. I would probably have to eventually shoot, if I could not stop you with, lets say, a baseball bat.

-Tink

[Welpe]

Why start with a baseball bat? If you're in a situation that requires deadly force for protection, why not use a better tool for the job?

[Slippery Pete]

The thing is, people can carry around a gun and you cannot arrest them, if they decide to shoot, goodbye. I do agree that guns are a necessity to the populace as a matter of self defense, but automatic weapons and the like need to be banned.

-Tink

I hate to perpetuate the hijacking of the thread, but I thought you were opposed to CCWs. How many people have you met carrying a machine gun under their jacket? And explain to me why a person that wants to shoot you for no reason is going to go to the trouble to get a permit?

[Tinkertoys]

I hate to perpetuate the hijacking of the thread, but I thought you were opposed to CCWs. How many people have you met carrying a machine gun under their jacket? And explain to me why a person that wants to shoot you for no reason is going to go to the trouble to get a permit?

So they can legally carry it, and you cannot arrest them. I am not current on the laws, so I do not know if you must declare that you have a concealed weapon on their person. I am opposed to CCW's, I was referring to having a weapon in your household. The USSS carries the compact MP5 under their jackets, why not a criminal?

-Tink