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  • Do BI's actually visit your family, friends, coworkers, references, etc?

    I was wondering if background detectives go out and visit and interview the people you put on your personal history packet? I had to list all family, 5 friends, and coworkers.

    The reason I ask is because my mother is an assistant manager for an apartment complex and she told me that a tenant applied for a job with the sheriff's office and that they had a detective come and ask questions about that tenant. I'm not sure what types of questions he asked because he interviewed the manager. Are they really that thorough they interview people's landlords? I suppose there could have been a specific issue, again, I'm not sure.

    I'm not worried about anyone who I have listed in my packet, don't get me wrong there: I've paid my rent on time for all 5 years I've been on my own and I've only had one complaint from neighbors and it was because I walked too loud at night Just wondering so I can give a heads up to those I have listed in my packet

  • #2
    Yes. They will probably have a short chat with 'em.
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    • #3
      They will check with anybody they feel they need to, including people not on any of your lists. Their job is to get as much information as they can regarding your personal history in order to make the most informed decision they can about you.

      It may seem a little invasive on occasion, but don't take anything personally. It's what they have to do, and it's done to everybody.

      Good Luck in your application.
      You catch em.......... you clean em!

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      • #4
        Talking to the neighbors sometimes provides all sorts of information about an applicant (both good and bad).

        As far as contacting your references is concerned, yes, they will probably do so. The B/I usually approached reference checks with two potential outlooks:

        1. First, there is the assumption that you wouldn't intentionally list anyone who would bad mouth you. If your listed references speak well of you, much of what they say just may be disregarded. Instead, the B/I will ask them for the names and contact info of other people who know you (but that you didn't list). What these secondary contacts say may be more productive for the B/I and may be given more weight.

        2. The B/I's second consideration is that sometimes a reference who you think is your friend will spill their guts about you and vent everything you've ever done wrong to the B/I. In such cases, they can be a gold mine of information.

        The moral here is choose your references carefully and make sure they don't know any of your other friends.
        Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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        • #5
          Yes and they may pick at random others to talk to that you don't list.
          They may hit one or two neighbors or more depending on what they hear.
          Employers they will mostly just call or ask for written response from.
          Those you give as references may never get called since it is most of the time those you have chosen that would be slanted in your favor.

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          • #6
            My BI called the people i gave them and asked for names of other people that know me that i didn't give. Luckily everyone likes me
            Originally Posted by VegasMetro
            maybe it’s me but I think a six pack and midget porn makes for good times?????

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            • #7
              I also heard the same thing. My investigator is pretty honest, I had asked if this were true and she said they only go out to make home visits if they feel the canidate is being dishonest about something but normally if your investigation goes smoothly thre's no need to go out and interview friends and nieghbors.
              I didn't wish to be so cute, but if the shoe fits......

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mtxpro752
                My BI called the people i gave them and asked for names of other people that know me that i didn't give. Luckily everyone likes me
                That's pretty standard. Of course you're only going to give the names of people you know will give you a good reference. We need to talk to people who will tell the truth!
                "Life's tough, it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne

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                • #9
                  the 1st department that I tried to get hired on with decieded to find out everything they could about me, via my ex girlfriends.... Needless to say, I never got the job... lol

                  Be advice that was ever givin to me, find out everyone whom youve ****ed off over the years, and apologize... Until you get the job, kiss everyones ***... lol

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                  • #10
                    Yes, and it can get really interesting:
                    A named reference stated that they no longer associated with the applicant, because he got drunk and passed out repeatedly! And this was a person the applicant WANTED us to talk to!
                    In the end, he did not get the job - we found an outstanding local warrant for DUI!
                    "A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself."
                    John Stuart Mill

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for all the responses.

                      This brings up another question. Are background investigations just looking into your past to see if you have done drugs or you're an alcoholic or you're mentally unstable, etc? Or do they also look for signs that you would or would not make a good police officer? Meaning, are you organized or messy, intelligent or dumb, assertive or shy, you have a temper or you're mild mannered? Or is that saved for the tests and interviews?

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                      • #12
                        Seems like it different no matter where you go. Here by law they have to talk to three of your neighbors. Some departments will go out and talk to your references and previous employers, others will send letters, and some will only check what they want. Depends on the department where you are applying.
                        In law enforcement, the customer is ALWAYS wrong.

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                        Sometimes there is justice. Sometimes there is just us.

                        I'd rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6.


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                        • #13
                          I just talked to a retired friend of mine who went back and is working PT as a BI investigator for our old dept.

                          Mostly what they look for is to find out if you have the temperment to be a cop. Are you a hard worker, are you reliable, are you someone others consider responsible? Do you have an even temper, how do you do under stressful situations? Do you think this person would be a good police officer?

                          You tell them that you never used drugs and your old college roomie tells them that he saw you smoke dope once, but that was it. Otherwise you never did drugs to his knowledge, they're not going to have a cow over it. They may or may not even ask you about it unless there are other problems that came up.

                          As far as family background, that's not nearly as important as your personal background. I know a cop who's now in command status who's dad served time in the federal joint for embellezment. But the kid was okay so it didn't matter. Several cops I know have relatives that have served hard time. They may take a closer look at you because of that, but they still judge you on you, not your family.

                          Mostly they want to make sure that you have the character that can perform under the situations you'll face as a cop. If you have a history of temper outbursts, quitting jobs suddenly, abuse of alcohol or any history of using drugs (other than maybe experimental, with the exception of hallucigens) you probably aren't going to pass. If you racked up a bunch of bills that you couldn't pay on your salary and didn't have some unforeseen disaster, you probably aren't going to be hired. It's all about a history of maturity and responsibility. You know your own background and whether or not it's consistant with what they want.
                          Last edited by retdetsgt; 07-21-2004, 07:57 PM.
                          "Life's tough, it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne

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                          • #14
                            I have had a detective talk to my neighbors in person. But as far as my references and past employers go they only talked by phone or by mailed out a form for them to fill out.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JustMe268
                              I found out two weeks later, I got the job but was on my toes nonstop
                              Two weeks?! Crybaby!

                              I started my background a month ago and probably have another month to go. My BI has a huge workload, so I get to be "on my toes" for a lot longer than you.
                              "We ask, we tell... Then we make."

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