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    I think this thread has a great propensity for going south on us rather quickly and probably getting nuked

    So I thought I would copy it------------in an area where only COPS can post


    http://forums.officer.com/t197505/


    Originally posted by mrbondjames View Post
    I recently just turned 20 (in October) and I have a few glitches in my past that may have ruined my chances of becoming a law enforcement officer. To get straight to the point, I have had around 8 encounters with escorts from October 2013 to October 2014. This activity basically occurred from the month of me turning 19 to days before I turned 20. I was a virgin and didn't want to turn 19 as one, so I took a dumb way out. I was a freshman in college and during that year I had moments where I was thinking with my little head instead of my big head and called an escort.

    Other than this, I have done nothing illegal. I don't want this to ruin the opportunity of becoming a police officer as I know for a fact that I will never see another escort again. I always believed that these girls were just being escorts for their joy of, well, sex, and it is just nothing but fun and a way for them to earn money. Now I have realized the real reason on why it is illegal. Most of these girls are indeed doing this strictly for money and to have change for their kids, but after a couple of encounters (and few news reports) I have noticed how there is a large percentage of them doing this to feed their drug addiction and/or to set up a robbery. I now feel very guilty for even seeing these ladies because I feel as if I was helping them with obtaining drugs by giving them money for what they call "service".

    I made a promise to myself and God to never do anything of this nature again, EVER. My parents recently passed away and I can't bare the image of them looking at me down from heaven witnessing what their son is doing. I know that I can't change or do anything about the past but I have high hopes for my future.

    Another reason why I will never do anything of this nature (or illegal) again is because of my role in my family. I have a couple of nieces and nephews that I want to live a joyful life. Their parents (my sister and her husband) are not on the right path to success so I feel that it is my duty to be an outstanding role model to them, someone that they can look up too. A true leader leads by example which means I can't be a true leader doing unmorally things, which is why I decided to stop with that activity before it was too late.

    To wrap this up and end this story about my life, I want to mention that I just became a police explorer and is majoring in criminal justice and have hopes of one day becoming a police officer.

    I know that many police departments are strict on character and morals when picking a potential officer but will this completely harm my chance of being a police officer? Even though it has only been a couple of months since I have seen an escort, my mindset has changed to a more mature level than what it was when I was 19. I have had a couple of life changing events that has opened my eyes to reality and it placed back on the right path that I was once distracted from.

    I am 20 now, I am probably not going to graduate until I am 23 due to college credit hour issues. I am not going to apply for the academy until I receive my degree.

    So after reading all of this, do I still have a chance of becoming a police officer?

    P.S. I have never been arrested and have a clean record.
    Originally posted by OHbuck15 View Post
    You do realize that a majority of women of the night don't even see that money. It goes straight into their pimps hands. The pimp in turn keeps their high going fueling them with cocaine/heroin. I think a bigger concern you should be worried about is if you have contracted HIV/ or a sexually transmitted disease.

    If I were you I would t even apply for 10 years. You had a birthday, that doesn't mean you suddenly changed and have been "reborn". Personally I think your creepy and sad. In my eyes and many others your just another john with an excuse. It's not that hard to meet a girl dude.

    Good luck on applying. I would bet that no small department would hire you and it would take a major dept that will take anyone and everyone for you to be hired.
    Originally posted by CruiserClass View Post
    Meh. Its a misdemeanor generally, and while its certainly not a point in your favor I doubt its fatal IF you allow enough time to pass and IF you don't relapse and IF you can explain the steps you took to make sure you didn't relapse.

    As I've often stated on this board, I admitted to multiple incidents of drinking while driving years before I applied, explained I realized that was stupid, quit drinking, and put a few years between it and the application and was hired with no problems.
    Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
    You have a MINIMUM of 10 yrs before any decent agency will even look at you. THEN you will have to worry about passing a Psych test and interview.

    In Iowa, Prostitution is an Aggravated Misdemeanor, punishable by up to TWO years in prison. This becomes a problem.

    Iowa Law also presents a much harder probelm for you due to a clause in the Minimum Standards for Law Enforcement Officers as stated in Iowa Administrative Code 501 section 2.1(5)

    "2.1(5) Is of good moral character as determined by a thorough background investigation including a fingerprint search conducted of local, state and national fingerprint files and has not been convicted of a felony or a crime involving moral turpitude. Moral turpitude is defined as an act of baseness, vileness, or depravity in the private and social duties which a person owes to another person, or to society in general, contrary to the accepted and customary rule of right and duty between person and person. It is conduct that is contrary to justice, honesty or good morals. The following nonexclusive list of acts has been held by the courts to involve moral turpitude: income tax evasion, perjury, or its subornation, theft, indecent exposure, sex crimes, conspiracy to commit a crime, defrauding the government and illegal drug sales. Various factors, however, may cause an offense which is generally not regarded as constituting moral turpitude to be regarded as such. The offenses of assault, domestic abuse, or other offenses of domestic violence, stalking, and any offense in which a weapon was used in the commission are crimes involving moral turpitude."

    Now, I realize you were not caught..............but you have self admitted and WILL disclose this when you apply to any agency................By self admitting you are basically convicting yourself of that crime in the eyes of the agency you want to work for.

    Prostitution has been in the past deemed by the Law Enforcement Acadmey Council to be a crime of moral turpitude


    I am not even going to comment on the gross minimization in the remainder of your post

    The bottom line is your chance of being hired in Iowa is next to non-existent even if legally you would be hireable
    Originally posted by PSUMedic View Post
    OK, I'm not usually as critical as my colleagues on these posts, but I have to say... this is probably one of the most uncomfortable and bizarre posts I've read in a while. First of all, who becomes an "explorer" at 20 years old? Second, I agree with the other people who said that getting a girlfriend really shouldn't be that hard. If it truly is indeed that hard for you to find a girl, than I question your general personality and demeanor.

    Awkward... I feel like I need to shower after reading this post. Maybe you should consider accounting, or IT, or anything other than law enforcement. Just my $0.02 for what it's worth.
    Originally posted by HotSoup View Post
    I'm confused....did you want to become a police officer before or after you had several contacts with hookers?
    Originally posted by CCCSD View Post
    Did you wear a hat, Jimmy?
    Originally posted by tanksoldier View Post
    ...and hygiene.

    Doing something stupid or even outright wrong is one thing. Lots of us have done stupid things.

    However, you have to own up to it and acknowledge the wrongdoing.

    All I see you doing is minimizing and avoiding responsibility.
    Originally posted by Zeitgeist View Post
    Perm DQ here. A troop overseas, lonely etc, 1 encounter could probably squeak by. But that many encounters would indicate an expectation that you would accept sex from a woman in lieu of arresting her.

    Go to a doctor, get tested.
    Originally posted by Aerohead View Post
    Were they hot?
    Originally posted by mrbondjames View Post
    Please explain your statement. How am I minimizing and avoiding responsibility? I have admitted to it, realised how wrongful it was, and made a promise to myself & God to never do such a thing again. If anything, I am owning up to it but I refuse to let 1 year of my past define who I am now and define who I will become in the future. Obama for example admitted to smoking marijuana when he was around my age, now he is the president of the united states. Obama obviously well qualified to be a president regardless of people's opinion. Not bring religion into this but if you are religious, then you know the story about Jesus and his disciples. If our past defines who we are eternally then why did Jesus pick sinners to be his disciples??? If Jesus knows that a past mistake does not define you, then why is it hard for men to understand?

    You don't have to reply but it would be helpful if you or anybody else to reply.

    There's a difference in being bluntly honest and discouraging. I am serious about this topic and really do not need negative/ degrading responses.
    Originally posted by mrbondjames View Post
    Please explain your statement. How am I minimizing and avoiding responsibility? I have admitted to it, realised how wrongful it was, and made a promise to myself & God to never do such a thing again. If anything, I am owning up to it but I refuse to let 1 year of my past define who I am now and define who I will become in the future. Obama for example admitted to smoking marijuana when he was around my age, now he is the president of the united states. Obama obviously well qualified to be a president regardless of people's opinion. Not bring religion into this but if you are religious, then you know the story about Jesus and his disciples. If our past defines who we are eternally then why did Jesus pick sinners to be his disciples??? If Jesus knows that a past mistake does not define you, then why is it hard for men to understand?

    You don't have to reply but it would be helpful if you or anybody else to reply.

    There's a difference in being bluntly honest and discouraging. I am serious about this topic and really do not need negative/ degrading responses.
    Originally posted by PSUMedic View Post
    "There's a difference in being bluntly honest and discouraging. I am serious about this topic and really do not need negative/ degrading responses."

    Now THAT will be a problem for you. As a cop, every day you will run into a client who is not happy that you are there. They will say all sorts of "negative and degrading" things about you, your family, your God, your pets, etc.

    If that reality hurts your feelings over a relatively anonymous internet site, seriously, you should reconsider.
    Originally posted by mrbondjames View Post
    Actually it wouldn't because that wouldbe bribery. Just like someone that goes to strip clubs and pay for lapdances, I highly doubt that an officer will let a girl give him a lapdance to get out of an arrest because he has been to many strip clubs.

    As for getting tested and getting a girlfriend:
    1. I always get tested and never caught an std.
    2. I have a girlfriend and never had any issues getting one.

    And none of the girls had a pimp
    Originally posted by PSUMedic View Post
    I give up on this thread already...

    OP: Do whatever you want. Is there a chance you could get picked up by someone? Maybe. If being a police officer is really what you want to do, then give it a shot. In my humble opinion, I think you'll have an uphill road find it unlikely that you will be selected even if you aren't DQ'd, based on my experiences.
    Originally posted by mrbondjames View Post
    The difference between this and being a cop os that, as a cop I will not come to people for advice. Right now I am trying to get advice. This is not a street setting and I am not dealing with suspects or calls, I am simply asking for advice. Two different settings.
    Originally posted by Chomp View Post
    I think everyone here already knows the answer to that question.



    Honestly you kinda do. You have no chance, just none. You're wasting your time even trying, and you should focus on something else. All of that religion nonsense you posted only makes it more clear. Jesus forgives, BIs don't.
    Originally posted by Country_Jim View Post
    You have a slim chance, however you keep minimizing your criminal behavior and making excuses. I can tell you that when I worked backgrounds I didn't care if you were a virgin and didn't want to be one when you were nineteen. I did care about your pattern of criminal activity that occured (multiple sexually encounters with prostitutes).

    Most of us have been in LE long enough that we don't want to hear about how wrong you now realize banging prostitutes is or your promise to God. Your promise is between you and God. I can't tell you how many times I (and I would guess most in LE) have heard how a suspect/prisoner has turned his/her life to God. Want to guess how long that lasts.

    You might want to consider a different major in case LE doesn't work out. There is a possibility that you might not get hired, you may get injured or terminated.
    Originally posted by Silentfaith View Post
    Well I wanted to post something simple….

    Instead I will comment on your President Obama example. Obama joined the Illinois State Senate in 1997, he joined the United States Senate in 2004, and he became President in 2008. He admitted to smoking marijuana when he was younger, presumably High School / College which for him would have been the early 1980's.

    So let’s say you wait the same amount of time it took from him to move on from his mistake of smoking marijuana, until when he got into politics (1997) that would be roughly 15-17 years. He didn’t smoke marijuana, and the next year find the righteous path to presidency… he grew up, which it sounds like you still need to. Wait a few years as several other posters have already suggested.

    Good luck.

    (If any of my President Obama timelines are off, blame Wikipedia)

    P.S. Personally, I think it's worse to have hired numerous prostitutes, than to have smoked marijuana.
    Originally posted by tanksoldier View Post
    Go pound sand.

    You asked for opinions, and I gave mine.

    Don't like it? Tough. I don't have to explain myself to you.





    How about not doing it because it's ILLEGAL?
    Originally posted by Country_Jim View Post
    OP, I reread your post and want to apologize. You have accepted full responsiblity and will make a great LE officer.

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    Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
    There is NO ONE who is or was a cop that is going to encourage you to become a cop after breaking the law multiple times like you did.


    Your entire tome was a minimization thinking that saying you were sorry and "Promised God" you would never do it again. Life doesn't work that way. Sometimes you just have to live with your past and shoulder the consequences of your prior actions.
    Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
    Thought I would save this before it gets edited











    This ALL shows your aptitude for this profession is seriously lacking.......................You just don't want to listen to what you have been told by multiple experienced officers and background investigators.




    Obama was ELECTED not appointed to any of his positions................all he needed was to be voted into those jobs. That often happens to people who aren't really qualified for the office they are elected to


    Obama would never pass a law enforcement Background Investigation NOR would he probably be able to pass a military Top Secret investigation



    Jesus is not my boss..........................My boss has different standards and those are the ones I use when doing background investigations



    As a cop you will go to people DAILY asking for advice (if you are at least half way intelligent)

    You won't always like the advice and answers you get then either
    Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

    My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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    Gee, and I thought it was a rather touching story....Sarcasm. In reality..........Weirdorama!!

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      Originally posted by PhilipCal View Post
      Gee, and I thought it was a rather touching story....Sarcasm. In reality..........Weirdorama!!
      I assume there was touching involved Phil....................
      Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

      My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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      • #4
        You have to give him points for not wanting to limit his horizons by staying in a man to hand relationship.
        Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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        • #5
          When I read the title of this thread I thought it might be about something else. Oh well.

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          • #6
            Mind in the gutter type guy I see

            Originally posted by Country_Jim View Post
            When I read the title of this thread I thought it might be about something else. Oh well.

            I like that in a man
            Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

            My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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            • #7
              He can always work for the Secret Service.
              I miss you, Dave.
              http://www.odmp.org/officer/20669-of...david-s.-moore

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              • #8
                Well this thread was NOT what I expected.
                In God We Trust
                Everyone else we run local and NCIC

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lady Blue View Post
                  Well this thread was NOT what I expected.
                  You and Country Jim must be on the same wavelength.
                  Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                  My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                  • #10
                    I see going South...and I think you are headed to Branson......

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                      I see going South...and I think you are headed to Branson......
                      I am too young to frequent Branson
                      Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                      My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                      • #12
                        Ah damn, when you said going south I though you meant foreplay on a woman. Dang

                        Never mind
                        Stupid has no color or race, everyone can participate.

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                        • #13
                          I live in the south... figured you were going to come visit me and LB
                          Why do we try so Hard for Little things, and so Little for Hard things?

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                            Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
                            I am too young to frequent Branson
                            You just had a b-day.... LOL....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                              You just had a b-day.... LOL....
                              STILL too young for Branson


                              I don't use a three wheel cart yet
                              Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                              My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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