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    I recently just turned 20 (in October) and I have a few glitches in my past that may have ruined my chances of becoming a law enforcement officer. To get straight to the point, I have had around 8 encounters with escorts from October 2013 to October 2014. This activity basically occurred from the month of me turning 19 to days before I turned 20. I was a virgin and didn't want to turn 19 as one, so I took a dumb way out. I was a freshman in college and during that year I had moments where I was thinking with my little head instead of my big head and called an escort.

    Other than this, I have done nothing illegal. I don't want this to ruin the opportunity of becoming a police officer as I know for a fact that I will never see another escort again. I always believed that these girls were just being escorts for their joy of, well, sex, and it is just nothing but fun and a way for them to earn money. Now I have realized the real reason on why it is illegal. Most of these girls are indeed doing this strictly for money and to have change for their kids, but after a couple of encounters (and few news reports) I have noticed how there is a large percentage of them doing this to feed their drug addiction and/or to set up a robbery. I now feel very guilty for even seeing these ladies because I feel as if I was helping them with obtaining drugs by giving them money for what they call "service".

    I made a promise to myself and God to never do anything of this nature again, EVER. My parents recently passed away and I can't bare the image of them looking at me down from heaven witnessing what their son is doing. I know that I can't change or do anything about the past but I have high hopes for my future.

    Another reason why I will never do anything of this nature (or illegal) again is because of my role in my family. I have a couple of nieces and nephews that I want to live a joyful life. Their parents (my sister and her husband) are not on the right path to success so I feel that it is my duty to be an outstanding role model to them, someone that they can look up too. A true leader leads by example which means I can't be a true leader doing unmorally things, which is why I decided to stop with that activity before it was too late.

    To wrap this up and end this story about my life, I want to mention that I just became a police explorer and is majoring in criminal justice and have hopes of one day becoming a police officer.

    I know that many police departments are strict on character and morals when picking a potential officer but will this completely harm my chance of being a police officer? Even though it has only been a couple of months since I have seen an escort, my mindset has changed to a more mature level than what it was when I was 19. I have had a couple of life changing events that has opened my eyes to reality and it placed back on the right path that I was once distracted from.

    I am 20 now, I am probably not going to graduate until I am 23 due to college credit hour issues. I am not going to apply for the academy until I receive my degree.

    So after reading all of this, do I still have a chance of becoming a police officer?

    P.S. I have never been arrested and have a clean record.
    Last edited by mrbondjames; 01-16-2015, 01:48 AM.

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    You do realize that a majority of women of the night don't even see that money. It goes straight into their pimps hands. The pimp in turn keeps their high going fueling them with cocaine/heroin. I think a bigger concern you should be worried about is if you have contracted HIV/ or a sexually transmitted disease.

    If I were you I would t even apply for 10 years. You had a birthday, that doesn't mean you suddenly changed and have been "reborn". Personally I think your creepy and sad. In my eyes and many others your just another john with an excuse. It's not that hard to meet a girl dude.

    Good luck on applying. I would bet that no small department would hire you and it would take a major dept that will take anyone and everyone for you to be hired.

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    • #3
      Meh. Its a misdemeanor generally, and while its certainly not a point in your favor I doubt its fatal IF you allow enough time to pass and IF you don't relapse and IF you can explain the steps you took to make sure you didn't relapse.

      As I've often stated on this board, I admitted to multiple incidents of drinking while driving years before I applied, explained I realized that was stupid, quit drinking, and put a few years between it and the application and was hired with no problems.
      I miss you, Dave.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by mrbondjames View Post
        I recently just turned 20 (in October) and I have a few glitches in my past that may have ruined my chances of becoming a law enforcement officer. To get straight to the point, I have had around 8 encounters with escorts from October 2013 to October 2014. This activity basically occurred from the month of me turning 19 to days before I turned 20. I was a virgin and didn't want to turn 19 as one, so I took a dumb way out. I was a freshman in college and during that year I had moments where I was thinking with my little head instead of my big head and called an escort.

        Other than this, I have done nothing illegal. I don't want this to ruin the opportunity of becoming a police officer as I know for a fact that I will never see another escort again. I always believed that these girls were just being escorts for their joy of, well, sex, and it is just nothing but fun and a way for them to earn money. Now I have realized the real reason on why it is illegal. Most of these girls are indeed doing this strictly for money and to have change for their kids, but after a couple of encounters (and few news reports) I have noticed how there is a large percentage of them doing this to feed their drug addiction and/or to set up a robbery. I now feel very guilty for even seeing these ladies because I feel as if I was helping them with obtaining drugs by giving them money for what they call "service".

        I made a promise to myself and God to never do anything of this nature again, EVER. My parents recently passed away and I can't bare the image of them looking at me down from heaven witnessing what their son is doing. I know that I can't change or do anything about the past but I have high hopes for my future.

        Another reason why I will never do anything of this nature (or illegal) again is because of my role in my family. I have a couple of nieces and nephews that I want to live a joyful life. Their parents (my sister and her husband) are not on the right path to success so I feel that it is my duty to be an outstanding role model to them, someone that they can look up too. A true leader leads by example which means I can't be a true leader doing unmorally things, which is why I decided to stop with that activity before it was too late.

        To wrap this up and end this story about my life, I want to mention that I just became a police explorer and is majoring in criminal justice and have hopes of one day becoming a police officer.

        I know that many police departments are strict on character and morals when picking a potential officer but will this completely harm my chance of being a police officer? Even though it has only been a couple of months since I have seen an escort, my mindset has changed to a more mature level than what it was when I was 19. I have had a couple of life changing events that has opened my eyes to reality and it placed back on the right path that I was once distracted from.

        I am 20 now, I am probably not going to graduate until I am 23 due to college credit hour issues. I am not going to apply for the academy until I receive my degree.

        So after reading all of this, do I still have a chance of becoming a police officer?

        P.S. I have never been arrested and have a clean record.
        You have a MINIMUM of 10 yrs before any decent agency will even look at you. THEN you will have to worry about passing a Psych test and interview.

        In Iowa, Prostitution is an Aggravated Misdemeanor, punishable by up to TWO years in prison. This becomes a problem.

        Iowa Law also presents a much harder probelm for you due to a clause in the Minimum Standards for Law Enforcement Officers as stated in Iowa Administrative Code 501 section 2.1(5)

        "2.1(5) Is of good moral character as determined by a thorough background investigation including a fingerprint search conducted of local, state and national fingerprint files and has not been convicted of a felony or a crime involving moral turpitude. Moral turpitude is defined as an act of baseness, vileness, or depravity in the private and social duties which a person owes to another person, or to society in general, contrary to the accepted and customary rule of right and duty between person and person. It is conduct that is contrary to justice, honesty or good morals. The following nonexclusive list of acts has been held by the courts to involve moral turpitude: income tax evasion, perjury, or its subornation, theft, indecent exposure, sex crimes, conspiracy to commit a crime, defrauding the government and illegal drug sales. Various factors, however, may cause an offense which is generally not regarded as constituting moral turpitude to be regarded as such. The offenses of assault, domestic abuse, or other offenses of domestic violence, stalking, and any offense in which a weapon was used in the commission are crimes involving moral turpitude."

        Now, I realize you were not caught..............but you have self admitted and WILL disclose this when you apply to any agency................By self admitting you are basically convicting yourself of that crime in the eyes of the agency you want to work for.

        Prostitution has been in the past deemed by the Law Enforcement Acadmey Council to be a crime of moral turpitude


        I am not even going to comment on the gross minimization in the remainder of your post

        The bottom line is your chance of being hired in Iowa is next to non-existent even if legally you would be hireable
        Last edited by Iowa #1603; 01-16-2015, 09:02 AM.
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        • #5
          OK, I'm not usually as critical as my colleagues on these posts, but I have to say... this is probably one of the most uncomfortable and bizarre posts I've read in a while. First of all, who becomes an "explorer" at 20 years old? Second, I agree with the other people who said that getting a girlfriend really shouldn't be that hard. If it truly is indeed that hard for you to find a girl, than I question your general personality and demeanor.

          Awkward... I feel like I need to shower after reading this post. Maybe you should consider accounting, or IT, or anything other than law enforcement. Just my $0.02 for what it's worth.

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          • #6
            I'm confused....did you want to become a police officer before or after you had several contacts with hookers?

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            • #7
              Did you wear a hat, Jimmy?
              Now go home and get your shine box!

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              • #8
                I question your general personality and demeanor.
                ...and hygiene.

                Doing something stupid or even outright wrong is one thing. Lots of us have done stupid things.

                However, you have to own up to it and acknowledge the wrongdoing.

                All I see you doing is minimizing and avoiding responsibility.
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                • #9
                  Perm DQ here. A troop overseas, lonely etc, 1 encounter could probably squeak by. But that many encounters would indicate an expectation that you would accept sex from a woman in lieu of arresting her.

                  Go to a doctor, get tested.
                  Judge me by the enemies I have made----Unknown

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                  • #10
                    Were they hot?
                    Originally posted by RSGSRT
                    We've reached a point where natural selection doesn't have a chance in hell of keeping up with the procreation of imbeciles.
                    Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot, but not acceptable for me to point it out?

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                    • #11
                      Please explain your statement. How am I minimizing and avoiding responsibility? I have admitted to it, realised how wrongful it was, and made a promise to myself & God to never do such a thing again. If anything, I am owning up to it but I refuse to let 1 year of my past define who I am now and define who I will become in the future. Obama for example admitted to smoking marijuana when he was around my age, now he is the president of the united states. Obama obviously well qualified to be a president regardless of people's opinion. Not bring religion into this but if you are religious, then you know the story about Jesus and his disciples. If our past defines who we are eternally then why did Jesus pick sinners to be his disciples??? If Jesus knows that a past mistake does not define you, then why is it hard for men to understand?

                      You don't have to reply but it would be helpful if you or anybody else to reply.

                      There's a difference in being bluntly honest and discouraging. I am serious about this topic and really do not need negative/ degrading responses.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tanksoldier View Post
                        ...and hygiene.

                        Doing something stupid or even outright wrong is one thing. Lots of us have done stupid things.

                        However, you have to own up to it and acknowledge the wrongdoing.

                        All I see you doing is minimizing and avoiding responsibility.

                        Please explain your statement. How am I minimizing and avoiding responsibility? I have admitted to it, realised how wrongful it was, and made a promise to myself & God to never do such a thing again. If anything, I am owning up to it but I refuse to let 1 year of my past define who I am now and define who I will become in the future. Obama for example admitted to smoking marijuana when he was around my age, now he is the president of the united states. Obama obviously well qualified to be a president regardless of people's opinion. Not bring religion into this but if you are religious, then you know the story about Jesus and his disciples. If our past defines who we are eternally then why did Jesus pick sinners to be his disciples??? If Jesus knows that a past mistake does not define you, then why is it hard for men to understand?

                        You don't have to reply but it would be helpful if you or anybody else to reply.

                        There's a difference in being bluntly honest and discouraging. I am serious about this topic and really do not need negative/ degrading responses.

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                        • #13
                          "There's a difference in being bluntly honest and discouraging. I am serious about this topic and really do not need negative/ degrading responses."

                          Now THAT will be a problem for you. As a cop, every day you will run into a client who is not happy that you are there. They will say all sorts of "negative and degrading" things about you, your family, your God, your pets, etc.

                          If that reality hurts your feelings over a relatively anonymous internet site, seriously, you should reconsider.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zeitgeist View Post
                            Perm DQ here. A troop overseas, lonely etc, 1 encounter could probably squeak by. But that many encounters would indicate an expectation that you would accept sex from a woman in lieu of arresting her.

                            Go to a doctor, get tested.
                            Actually it wouldn't because that wouldbe bribery. Just like someone that goes to strip clubs and pay for lapdances, I highly doubt that an officer will let a girl give him a lapdance to get out of an arrest because he has been to many strip clubs.

                            As for getting tested and getting a girlfriend:
                            1. I always get tested and never caught an std.
                            2. I have a girlfriend and never had any issues getting one.

                            And none of the girls had a pimp
                            Last edited by mrbondjames; 01-16-2015, 12:17 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I give up on this thread already...

                              OP: Do whatever you want. Is there a chance you could get picked up by someone? Maybe. If being a police officer is really what you want to do, then give it a shot. In my humble opinion, I think you'll have an uphill road find it unlikely that you will be selected even if you aren't DQ'd, based on my experiences.

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