I'm curious, with as much disrespect as can possibly be stomached over the last several months it makes me wonder: How often do you as a police officer, in uniform, experience or deal with a disrespectful attitudes without provocation?
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"Is this a serious question?"
Yes, I understand, it may seem an odd question, but I have to ask. I've heard others mention on these forums the lack of trust in getting the truth on "news" it seems everything flowing from news these days is propaganda, and its impossible to know what to trust if you don't see it for yourself. It's the norm now to see everything used to exploit, or distort, whether its right or wrong the news doesn't seem to care, as long as it sells.
I already think I know the answer to the question, but when you hear it from someone WHO ACTUALLY wears the uniform then you know you're hearing it direct, unfiltered. As a civilian you think you know, but you don't really unless you double check your sources, and if you just take news for face value you're really screwed.
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Originally posted by that's my hand View Post"Is this a serious question?"
Yes, I understand, it may seem an odd question, but I have to ask. I've heard others mention on these forums the lack of trust in getting the truth on "news" it seems everything flowing from news these days is propaganda, and its impossible to know what to trust if you don't see it for yourself. It's the norm now to see everything used to exploit, or distort, whether its right or wrong the news doesn't seem to care, as long as it sells.
I already think I know the answer to the question, but when you hear it from someone WHO ACTUALLY wears the uniform then you know you're hearing it direct, unfiltered. As a civilian you think you know, but you don't really unless you double check your sources, and if you just take news for face value you're really screwed.
Here's your homework assignment for the weekend. Read, re-read, and then read once more what you posted above. You've answered your own question.
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Originally posted by that's my hand View PostI'm curious, with as much disrespect as can possibly be stomached over the last several months it makes me wonder: How often do you as a police officer, in uniform, experience or deal with a disrespectful attitudes without provocation?
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Originally posted by careerchange#2 View Postevery day. from getting flipped off while driving around to random shouts of "**** da police" or "pig" to the current hands up don't shoot, to which I simply reply pants up, don't loot.
It helps to know the truth but so few people want to waste the time talking about it and for the most part I understand why. It's just not worth talking about because it's a waste of energy because it just wears on you and it's not changing, it's obviously getting worse.
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Proportionately, you're getting more responses than most threads in Ask A Cop. Remember this subforum is for anyone to read but only sworn LEOs to respond, so its normal to get even 100 views per reply.
I'm plain clothes, so I can't really say if its worse or not. I will say people tend to be less mouthy with detectives as a whole. I think Hollywood has painted us as being able to tangle you up when you're talking and incriminating yourself, plus the business attire vs uniform, adds up to people approaching us very differently. It was one of the biggest surprises when I went inside.I miss you, Dave.
http://www.odmp.org/officer/20669-of...david-s.-moore
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Thanks for your response. This adds another angle, the Hollywood and "Entertainment" business. Reality TV, and the whole fantasy versus reality. How much of what we as civilians learn about police if through, news, TV or Hollywood - honestly it's like if you don't have a doc in the family and have never been around one, all you think of docs is probably through TV or movies or worse Dr. Oz.
I wonder how much of the breakdown in our society is through learned myths and fears. If you don't break the law except for minor traffic infractions you don't really know what a police officer is like in real life ... just normal people. I've been blessed with working with dogs and have a little more experience due to that but I'm trying to figure out the algorithm to this madness being carried out every day. It's absolutely maddening. It's like someone or some group is purposely going after the police because the police aren't following blindly.
I've read where many Sheriffs and Chiefs across the country have stood up for 2nd amendment rights. But, I've also seen a huge effort by a couple prominent mayors and this administration wants to ban or infringe on those rights. IMO, this administration has already shown it gets what it wants "or else". In the prominent cases played out on TV in the last 12 months there's allegedly been DOJ officials somehow involved in some of these so-called demonstrations or "protests," and if you look at some of the signs in the crowd, it doesn't look ike the work of a guy off the street with a professional banner printer in his garage.
There's definitely something not right about this stuff, but it goes to a whole new level when almost every police action shooting where a black youth is involved automatically gets the DOJ involved. Makes no sense. It just smells funny. Anyway ... thanks.Last edited by that's my hand; 12-28-2014, 08:56 AM. Reason: I put national case instead of local or police action ...
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I've read this twice and started a response twice.... Here goes a third attempt.
The problem is I can't sum up the stupidity of people, the ignorance of the masses, the "media" as a whole and what's real: the police side of it, ie: logical and common sense.
I actually find discussing police matters/tactics/etc is like discussing religion these days. People are already set in their ways, in their perceived knowledge and can't see past what they think they know is right because... Well that's what they believe or they know it's true because 'someone' told them it was.
It would take too long to type what needs to be said so I wont. Really, I'm so fed up with this anti police movement I really don't care to talk to anyone outside of the blue line anymore.
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I'm a Border Patrol Agent, and I live in a very conservative state, in a very rural and conservative area. Still, I encounter extremely angry people frequently. Some hate the government, some hate law enforcement, and some hate anyone who enforces immigration laws.
On the other hand, I have met a ton of people who went out of their way to thank me for what I do. People who truly like and respect us. In my mind, the majority of people are like that, not like the negative people I encounter.Natural selection leaves the survivors stronger and better! Humans have escaped this winnowing for far too long!
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