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  • #16
    Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
    Like I said there are thousands of jobs out there BESIDES police work that a Criminal Justice degree will help with. I do not consider a degree in CJ worthless or pointless.
    Originally posted by craftspace234 View Post
    But if something goes wrong like I don't get hired as a cop, I don't like the pay, too may hours, etc that crj degree will restrict me only to law enforcement type jobs.
    Do you REALLY have that hard of a time with reading comprehension?
    Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

    My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
      Do you REALLY have that hard of a time with reading comprehension?
      I said law enforcement type jobs. Read what I said again. Cj is very limiting

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      • #18
        Well, for a soon to be junior in college, you sure don't know how to look into things. It seems you want it spoon fed. Why do we need to tell you what jobs will take a CJ degree? It's YOUR degree. Go for business, CJ, psychology, mathematics, Scientology, or whatever. Only you can decide what's good for YOU. If you think a CJ degree is limiting, go for something else. If all you ever want to do is CJ, then get that degree. Enough posting and make a decision, or don't. It doesn't effect any of us either way. This decision effects only you and your life and future.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by craftspace234 View Post
          I said law enforcement type jobs. Read what I said again. Cj is very limiting
          I read EXACTLY what you TYPED-----------------No it is not "limiting".

          A Criminal Justice degree is a Liberal Arts Degree. It has EXACTLY THE SAME base requirements as any other Liberal Arts program . The ONLY difference is the degree specific classes which make up the Major. You still have a General Education 4 year Bachelor's Degree.

          ANY Liberal Arts Degree will get you into nearly any job that requires a College Degree. A specific job MIGHT require a specific degree---------------but that is highly unusual. Like Law Enforcement administrators what most hiring directors in private business want is a person who knows how to express themselves, who has started and finished a prescribed course of study, who has the ability to listen to and understand directions, and who can get along and work with others

          I know a NUMBER of people with Criminal Justice Degrees that have excelled in professions far removed from Law Enforcement.

          Does being an elected County Auditor fit the bill for a person with a CJ degree working SUCCESSFULLY in a position that has absolutley NOTHING to do with Criminal Justice/Law Enforcement?

          How about being the owner of a small business (10 employees) that specializes in public relations for other small businesses.


          Then there is the city manager for a town of 80,000 in Central Wisconsin who has a CJ degree backed up with a MA in Public Administration


          I guess those people were "limited"



          Like I said you have a comprehension



          Originally posted by eaker995 View Post
          Enough posting and make a decision, or don't. It doesn't effect any of us either way. This decision effects only you and your life and future.
          Plus 2
          Last edited by Iowa #1603; 12-04-2014, 08:39 AM.
          Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

          My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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          • #20
            Originally posted by craftspace234 View Post
            1.) Yes I am. You don't even know what year of college I am in. I am about to be done with my sophomore year and have no idea on what classes to take next semester.
            No. No, you are not. What are you? 19-20 years old? You have your whole life ahead of you. You are not running out of time.

            Originally posted by craftspace234 View Post
            I said law enforcement type jobs. Read what I said again. Cj is very limiting
            The only thing that would limit you is you. Education is what you make of it. You can put your entire effort into a CJ degree and learn valuable skills and gain useful knowledge, or you can graduate from a molecular engineering program and not know how to apply what you learned.

            Originally posted by craftspace234 View Post
            But if something goes wrong like I don't get hired as a cop, I don't like the pay, too may hours, etc that crj degree will restrict me only to law enforcement type jobs.
            You do realize that as a police officer you WILL work long hours and not get paid enough, right? Those are not the reasons to pursue a CJ degree.
            "Respect is earned. Honesty is appreciated. Trust is gained. Loyalty is returned."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
              I read EXACTLY what you TYPED-----------------No it is not "limiting".

              A Criminal Justice degree is a Liberal Arts Degree. It has EXACTLY THE SAME base requirements as any other Liberal Arts program . The ONLY difference is the degree specific classes which make up the Major. You still have a General Education 4 year Bachelor's Degree.

              ANY Liberal Arts Degree will get you into nearly any job that requires a College Degree. A specific job MIGHT require a specific degree---------------but that is highly unusual. Like Law Enforcement administrators what most hiring directors in private business want is a person who knows how to express themselves, who has started and finished a prescribed course of study, who has the ability to listen to and understand directions, and who can get along and work with others

              I know a NUMBER of people with Criminal Justice Degrees that have excelled in professions far removed from Law Enforcement.

              Does being an elected County Auditor fit the bill for a person with a CJ degree working SUCCESSFULLY in a position that has absolutley NOTHING to do with Criminal Justice/Law Enforcement?

              How about being the owner of a small business (10 employees) that specializes in public relations for other small businesses.


              Then there is the city manager for a town of 80,000 in Central Wisconsin who has a CJ degree backed up with a MA in Public Administration


              I guess those people were "limited"



              Like I said you have a comprehension



              Plus 2
              So he has more than just a cj degree. He has public administration that's why.

              There are a few other jobs you can get with a cj degree but they aren't paid very well. Less than a police officers pay
              Originally posted by ArmyVet View Post
              No. No, you are not. What are you? 19-20 years old? You have your whole life ahead of you. You are not running out of time.



              The only thing that would limit you is you. Education is what you make of it. You can put your entire effort into a CJ degree and learn valuable skills and gain useful knowledge, or you can graduate from a molecular engineering program and not know how to apply what you learned.



              You do realize that as a police officer you WILL work long hours and not get paid enough, right? Those are not the reasons to pursue a CJ degree.
              Who are you to say its not enough pay for me? I think that'll be up to me if I get paid that salary and see for myself.

              Not the point anyways. Just saying anything can happen and law enforcement may not work out for me. Then I am left with a cj degree that can only get a few very low paying jobs. Most likely lower than a police officers. Probably couldn't find one higher than 40k salary

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              • #22
                Originally posted by craftspace234 View Post
                So he has more than just a cj degree. He has public administration that's why.

                There are a few other jobs you can get with a cj degree but they aren't paid very well. Less than a police officers pay


                Who are you to say its not enough pay for me? I think that'll be up to me if I get paid that salary and see for myself.

                Not the point anyways. Just saying anything can happen and law enforcement may not work out for me. Then I am left with a cj degree that can only get a few very low paying jobs. Most likely lower than a police officers. Probably couldn't find one higher than 40k salary
                I have changed my mind

                PLEASE DON'T GET A CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEGREE.

                YOU need to get a Business degree------------------you are too *****ing dense to ever make it in the Law Enforcement profession so a criminal justice degree would be totally worthless for you.

                Oh by the way I know a couple attorneys that have CJ bachelors--------------------naw it did them absolutely no good what so ever----other than to qualify them for law school.

                Oh, but that doesn't matter because they got a higher degree.........
                Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by craftspace234 View Post
                  So he has more than just a cj degree. He has public administration that's why.

                  There are a few other jobs you can get with a cj degree but they aren't paid very well. Less than a police officers pay


                  Who are you to say its not enough pay for me? I think that'll be up to me if I get paid that salary and see for myself.

                  Not the point anyways. Just saying anything can happen and law enforcement may not work out for me. Then I am left with a cj degree that can only get a few very low paying jobs. Most likely lower than a police officers. Probably couldn't find one higher than 40k salary
                  Oh my. I dont get it. You asked about getting a CJ degree since you werent sure, you got responses both pro and con and now you are whining about those responses that gave pro reasons. WHY DID YOU EVEN POST YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION!?!?

                  It sounds to me like you have got the answer you needed and that you feel a CJ degree isnt the way to go based off of YOUR OWN responses. Thread closed. NEXT!

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                  • #24
                    The OP confuses me. He asks for advice in four different threads about CJ degrees and then spends this thread arguing against CJ degrees. He is disrespectful in his replies to Iowa (a man who forgot more than the OP will ever know about LE) and has shown me that he doesn't have what it takes to make it in LE. I am not saying this to be mean, but just what I see from his posts and his responses. The OP can't make a decision, has shown immaturity by disrespecting Iowa and doesn't appear to have people skills. I would hate for the OP's indecision to cost him his life of the life of a fellow officer.

                    Stay safe.
                    Last edited by Country_Jim; 12-04-2014, 06:44 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by craftspace234 View Post
                      Who are you to say its not enough pay for me? I think that'll be up to me if I get paid that salary and see for myself.
                      Just someone who thinks you should understand the realities of a profession BEFORE you make any decisions. That's up to you too, of course.
                      "Respect is earned. Honesty is appreciated. Trust is gained. Loyalty is returned."

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                      • #26
                        http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/gen...n-drug-charges

                        It wasn't for this bone-head...

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                        • #27
                          Wow the Sentinel!!!!! God, I had forgotten about that paper. Now I am stuck with the Mercury News, bastion of intellectual sophistication and Scott Herhold!

                          To the OP, since you failed to understand the basics of what Iowa and several,other VERY well respected members of this board had to say:

                          If you are so stumped that as a college student you can't even do basic internet research, you will most likely struggle in college. If you can't make a simple decision without asking total strangers you will struggle in Field Training.

                          That's harsh but it's true.

                          I know lots of people who have CJ degrees outside of Law Enforcement. BA/BS in Criminal Justice can be a primer for law school, because you will read countless legal briefs. It could lead you into other social sciences like psychology or sociology.
                          semper destravit

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                          • #28
                            I would agree with the countless benefits that my law school doctorate decree has given me. At my department only one other person has their JD. At my academy, one of my TAC officers had his JD.
                            It is a growing trend. I never plan to practice law, but you never know when you will need a back up plan to law enforcement. Too many officers at my department at some point have major injuries that contribute to early retirement and most don't have a back up job field to go into.
                            For me if I am injured beyond repair, maybe I will become a prosecutor. I wouldn't suffer from a loss in pay, that is for sure, but it would be terrible to be in the office/court all day.

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                            • #29
                              I'm just going to go ahead and say that it doesn't really matter what degree you have. A degree doesn't get you the job, you get yourself the job. A degree doesn't tell you how to interview, in the case of a LE profession, it doesn't teach you how to run or perform in a physical fitness test. In my experience, college doesn't prepare you for a job. I have a degree in sports management and i'm in the process of applying with a few different departments that don't care why type of degree I have. Its my job to show them why I make a good candidate, not why my degree makes me one. I am also currently taking online classes for a CJ degree which won't help me get a job, but its something that interests me and it may help me in the future if I move beyond an officer. So my main points:

                              1. Get a degree, it doesn't matter what

                              2. Be respectful of others especially when you ask for their advice. Many have been in this profession for a long time and can provide lots of insight. I'm new on this forum and its already helped me, just by reading posts.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by nyislesfan42 View Post
                                I'm just going to go ahead and say that it doesn't really matter what degree you have. A degree doesn't get you the job, you get yourself the job. A degree doesn't tell you how to interview, in the case of a LE profession, it doesn't teach you how to run or perform in a physical fitness test. In my experience, college doesn't prepare you for a job. I have a degree in sports management and i'm in the process of applying with a few different departments that don't care why type of degree I have. Its my job to show them why I make a good candidate, not why my degree makes me one. I am also currently taking online classes for a CJ degree which won't help me get a job, but its something that interests me and it may help me in the future if I move beyond an officer. So my main points:

                                1. Get a degree, it doesn't matter what

                                2. Be respectful of others especially when you ask for their advice. Many have been in this profession for a long time and can provide lots of insight. I'm new on this forum and its already helped me, just by reading posts.

                                Although you offer some good advice, since you are not LE, you are not supposed to post in Ask a Cop unless you started the thread.

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