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  • #16
    Originally posted by SmallCityCop View Post
    Why resign? If I did everything right, I'd say "F" the media!!!
    So you don't spend every minute on duty wondering who is going to put a bullet in the back of your head.

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    • #17
      I'd negotiate a retirement buy out and leave the state. He will almost certainly never work in law enforcement again. No chief is going to hire that baggage.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by SmallCityCop View Post
        Why resign? If I did everything right, I'd say "F" the media!!!
        It's really not an issue that you did everything correct, it is a very strong issue of officer safety.
        Retired

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SmallCityCop View Post
          Why resign? If I did everything right, I'd say "F" the media!!!
          Would you go out on the street in that town if you were him? Live anywhere in the area?

          Doubtful

          there isn't some global hoodrat network that's going to snatch him up if he's not careful.
          No, but there's a shiite ton of little homies looking to build cred. He'd have to worry about it every second of every day.

          Might still worry even if he leaves the state.
          Last edited by tanksoldier; 11-21-2014, 04:23 PM.
          "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." -- GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

          "With a brother on my left and a sister on my right, we face…. We face what no one should face. We face, so no one else would face. We are in the face of Death." -- Holli Peet

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          • #20
            Originally posted by just joe View Post
            I'd negotiate a retirement buy out and leave the state. He will almost certainly never work in law enforcement again. No chief is going to hire that baggage.
            Unfortunately you are right.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Chomp View Post
              Let's not get crazy; Wilson isn't Salman Rushdie, and there isn't some global hoodrat network that's going to snatch him up if he's not careful. Six Social Security checks from now and these turds will have moved on to something else.

              That said, he probably can't work on the street anymore.. the media won't allow it. He could go to work quietly somewhere else, but inevitably the media would sniff him out and **** him.
              Someone would cash in one snuffing Wilson just to put it up on Facebook if he were to return to LE.
              That's what they do, it's a trailer park.

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              • #22
                IIRC, most LEOs resign within a year of a shooting. That said, I think L-1 has the best answer & sound reasoning as it simply isn't worth Wilson's life to remain in LE in Ferguson when he can get another job somewhere else. BTW, last I heard he was thinking of resigning no matter what the outcome. Can't blame him, really, as he's been treated like c$%p during this whole thing........

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                • #23
                  Can't blame him, really, as he's been treated like c$%p during this whole thing........
                  Wonder how this is affecting other officers in the area... wonder if any will die because they hesitate.
                  "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." -- GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

                  "With a brother on my left and a sister on my right, we face…. We face what no one should face. We face, so no one else would face. We are in the face of Death." -- Holli Peet

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by AvalancheZ71 View Post
                    Someone would cash in one snuffing Wilson just to put it up on Facebook if he were to return to LE.
                    Probably by a 15 year old kid who will do six years.

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                    • #25
                      Would you go back?

                      Originally posted by hemicop View Post
                      IIRC, most LEOs resign within a year of a shooting. That said, I think L-1 has the best answer & sound reasoning as it simply isn't worth Wilson's life to remain in LE in Ferguson when he can get another job somewhere else. BTW, last I heard he was thinking of resigning no matter what the outcome. Can't blame him, really, as he's been treated like c$%p during this whole thing........
                      During my career, albeit this is from a limited sample of one county, there have been 40 officer-involved shootings. Not a single officer resigned, not within a year nor at any point. None of the officers I know from other areas who have shot people resigned.

                      I wish people would stop trying to convince officers that using their weapons is a devastating experience that will leave them ****ed in the head. All that will do is make them hesitate without any reason other than they've been told they'll crack up, and that delay could get them killed.
                      Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

                      I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ateamer View Post
                        During my career, albeit this is from a limited sample of one county, there have been 40 officer-involved shootings. Not a single officer resigned, not within a year nor at any point. None of the officers I know from other areas who have shot people resigned.

                        I wish people would stop trying to convince officers that using their weapons is a devastating experience that will leave them ****ed in the head. All that will do is make them hesitate without any reason other than they've been told they'll crack up, and that delay could get them killed.
                        While my sample is not as large as yours, the folks I am aware of from various agencies who have been involved in shootings have all stayed on and retired and/or are still working years later.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by just joe View Post
                          While my sample is not as large as yours, the folks I am aware of from various agencies who have been involved in shootings have all stayed on and retired and/or are still working years later.
                          Me too...............

                          I know one who resigned----but is now the Chaplain for the department he used to be a cop for.

                          He also had a couple other incidents that helped him make a decision to leave the profession
                          Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                          My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                          • #28
                            That stat I mentioned was from an FBI report. While LEOs in some agencies may not resign, perhaps according to a newer report, my questions then are: Why? How many sought or received help after their shooting and how long were they on when they were involved in the shooting? Things are a bit different now as I believe a lot of LEOs now have military experience, just like after VietNam so that may account for the change in statistics. IMO, with the way things are going now, you'll see a lot more assaults on LEOs than any desrease as some claim is happening....

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                            • #29
                              I wish people would stop trying to convince officers that using their weapons is a devastating experience that will leave them ****ed in the head
                              How many sought or received help after their shooting and how long were they on when they were involved in the shooting?
                              there have been 40 officer-involved shootings.
                              In my previous life I've probably shot and killed more people than that just by myself. Why is it different if a Soldier shoots somebody vs a peace officer?

                              A peace officer shoots somebody, and there's counseling and administrative time off and psych evaluations... a Soldier shoots somebody, somebody else and a third person and their reward is to go back out on patrol the next day, to do it again.
                              "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." -- GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

                              "With a brother on my left and a sister on my right, we face…. We face what no one should face. We face, so no one else would face. We are in the face of Death." -- Holli Peet

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                              • #30
                                The difference is the job itself. While military does have rules of engagement, I don't believe they're as restrictive as civilian LE. In helping train military veteran rookies, the one thing they seem to need reminding of, is that their job is apprehension, not eliminating a threat. Certainly not to take anything away from our veterans, civilian LE puts tighter restrictions on them along with the environment that simply doesn't encourage or reward shooting people. The time off & evals. you mention are mandatory nowadays, not elective so it's not like all cops feel a "need" to see a psych.

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