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  • LeeRoy
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    When I was on motors I averaged about a ticket every month or two while I was riding home. Granted this was on a marked police bike but I was essentially off duty.

    The only time I've ever written a ticket under different conditions was while I was a motor. I was on my personal motorcycle, a white BMW, in my motor uniform. I was shuttling my bike home after work and had my portable radio on my belt. I was passing this car when I saw the driver lighting up a marijuana pipe. He looked left and saw me, his eyes got as big as saucers, and he quickly shoved the pipe under his seat. I figured I'd see if he pulled over so I motioned for him to pull over and he did. I used my portable to call for cover and ended up citing the guy for possessing weed while driving. He even took me to court but ended up losing his license for a year after being found guilty.

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  • PeteBroccolo
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    I used to be extremely gung-ho, observing stuff while off-duty, then issuing the ticket the next shift I was on duty. I have backed off a lot in the last few years.

    A couple of weeks ago, I was driving our family car with my wife and youngest daughter, when a semi and trailer was passing us just as another vehicle was coming the other way on the 2 lane (1 each way) highway. I had to pull off onto the shoulder to let the semi in so there was no collision. I saw the company name on the power unit, and memorized the trailer plate and unit number. Unfortunately, I was still off for another week, then got busy, and the company's head office is located about 100 miles away. The city IS within my patrol area, and I COULD have either mailed the ticket to the local police to serve for me, or I COULD have patrolled there and served it myself, on the manager of the company.

    I decided to just phone the company and report what happened, and write up a report, clearing the file otherwise without a charge. The same truck forced a second private car to brake to let it back in while it was passing the car again with on-coming traffic that same night. I was able to memorize the other car's plate, and notified the user of the car that I had seen this happen, and that I had complained about both situations to the company. The car driver was very happy that I had done this.

    The company drives through my area regularly, so I have ample opportunity to deal with them in the future, and will DEFINITELY recall the above incident.

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  • Marky-Mark
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    Discretion is the better part of valor. When I was an FTO, I always advised my rookies that when you're off-duty the most dangerous words in the world are "I'm a Police Officer". Short of a robbery or rape in-progress, leave and call 911. My dept. had three officers killed intervening in minor burglaries off-duty in about five years, I knew two of them It's just not worth it.

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  • tcsd1236
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    Originally posted by Traffic*Goddess
    Just imagining the insurance hike if you would get in a crash trying to stop a vehicle off-duty is frightening!
    Thats why you get the plate number and work on issuing the ticket when you return to duty.
    The only time I mail tickets is if I have a positive ID on a violator who lives outside the area. Face-to-face is always better, if only to explain the violation they are being cited for and the options available to them in responding to the charges.

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  • Traffic*Goddess
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    I wrote a few citations for off-duty violations. I would always mail it to them, though. I did observe a hit and run on my way home from that station, but I followed and reported the direction of travel on portable so the marked units could make the stop.
    Just imagining the insurance hike if you would get in a crash trying to stop a vehicle off-duty is frightening!

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  • MCSD241
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    I rarely stop anyone off duty. I have a take-home car so I have a ability. However, it's gotta be pretty bad for me to want to stop...running a red light infront of me. Otherwise I just "don't notice" it. I've only pulled over 2-3 people in the last year off duty. I have been flagged down twice in the last year also. Not bad since that is my primary mode of transportation while off-duty-free gas

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  • Cptwolf127
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    I tell my officers that when off duty, their job is to observe and report problems. Getting involved while in your personal car is a problem. Best situation would be to call for a unit via radio / telephone and get them to make the stop, write the citation and list you as the witness. This will keep you out of a LOT of trouble.
    Stay Safe

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    quote:
    Originally posted by kirch:
    What I'm wondering is if anyone has ever written a citation after witnessing something off-duty?

    Once. I wouldn't mind doing it more often, but it has to be something serious enough to make it worth my while. The guy I wrote ran a stop sign and almost t-boned me at an intersection.

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    i have gotten behind people who i knew were suspended, dui, driving seriously reckless, or had dope in the car and followed at a safe distance while calling dispatch on the cel. i have actually gotten a few dui's and some dope for other guys that way. i have never approached anyone like that off duty. if i know someone is suspended i just call my dispatch and have them run me a hard copy of the 28 and driver's info and put on it time and location. i go get a warrant for them when i come back to work. gives you an excuse to go hook em up later

    -web

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    Thanks for the input. Perhaps in making contact with the vehicle I was being a little overzealous in my traffic enforcement. In my defense, I hoped to put enough of a scare into them to get them to stop driving dangerously.

    I have to say I never thought about the 'identifying my personal vehicle' thing, and it's a point well-made.

    Thanks for the input.

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    Once I observed a local who I knew was suspended. I saw him driving around town. I called dispatch to see if any units were available. None at the time so I kept a list of some places I witnessed him driving. The next time I was on duty I asked my supervisor what could be done. He advised I had all this info and could ID the driver so I should go and pick him up. Took him to jail and it stood up in court because of the positive ID I had of him and the list of places I wrote down he visited.

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    traffic stops in POV's off-duty are not smart.
    # 1 - no access to dispatch and immediate 28/29 info on the vehicle. cell phones dont cut it for me.

    # 2 - no emergency lights to alert traffic. Even if your out of the lane of traffic, lights alert the public and violator to whats going on.

    # 3 - A reasonable citizen might question whether you actually are an officer. The violator and/or a passer-by citizen may think your trying to rob someone.

    # 4 - now this violator knows what vehicle you drive off-duty.

    The smart thing to do would be to get the reg. info, excellent description of the violator, call for a unit, and follow if its safe to do so.
    Mailing the summons is a a good option also, if possible.

    just my 2 cents.
    -pint

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  • Guest's Avatar
    Guest replied
    File it away, there's always tomorrow, plus the clowns in the other car don't need to see what you drive.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    I wouldn't make the stop, or even a confrontation, with the occupants of the car. Mail them the cite.

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