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    Civilians VS Cops.

    I suppose my question is why do you refer to us as civilians? Ive attended law enforcement academy, 6 years in infantry with the united states army and served my country honorably.
    Recently I joined a lodge that has a few officers as members that always refer to anyone not an officer as a civilian. This is not the only case I have encountered. As I understand Police officers are public servants and are in place to help and protect the public. I have been noticing lately it seems your cities, counties and states you work for have you out writing more tickets and fines. I have even seen municipals lowering speed limits and changing other small rules and having you push them harder as though to make more revenue for your employer.
    I'm looking forward to some other Officers response to my questions.
    Last edited by west4570; 04-18-2011, 08:30 PM.

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    Use the search function...............this topic has been discussed ad nauseum
    Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

    My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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    • #3
      Originally posted by west4570 View Post
      I'm am looking forward to some other Officers response to my questions.
      Questions? You ask one question, then whine about police writing tickets.

      I'll help you with the actual question, wikipedia somes it up pretty well:

      The term "civilian" is also often used colloquially to refer to people who are not members of a particular profession or occupation, especially by law enforcement agencies, which often use rank structures similar to those of military units.

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      • #4
        Don't feed him.


        Remember the last guy that messed with us on the speed traps.......................
        Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

        My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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        • #5
          Because we are officers and you are a civilian in the terms of officer and civilian. Officers are also civilians. While you are a civilian you are also armed forces/military or what ever you want to classify your service as. Would it be appropriate to classify a non military individual as a member of the armed forces/military? no.

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          • #6
            Me thinks you're seeking confrontational responses but the answer is quite simple. LEO's are sworn employees. The "O" in LEO means "Officer". Anyone else is not. This includes civilian employees of any LE agency. They are referred to as civilians which is what they are. It is not meant in anyway to be derogatory.

            Insofar as traffic enforcement is concerned, while there is revenue to be had, the primary purpose is to keep traffic crashes, incidents, and more importantly, injuries & deaths to a minimum. Next time you come across a bloody crash caused by a reckless or speeding driver, think hard about how it may have been prevented had the reckless & speeding driver been stopped and cited five minutes beforehand.
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            • #7
              On a side note we don't write fines, we write tickets. Fines are assessed by the court. In my opinion to quit this bickering about citations being about money I would be all for mandatory night in jail for violations of the traffic code. The problem with that is jail over population.

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              • #8
                Like said before, it's not derogatory. People that aren't cops, are civilians. You can call anyone that's not in a branch of the military a civilian as well, if you'd like. I'd have no problem with that.
                "I sometimes wish that people would put a little more emphasis upon the observance of the law than they do upon its enforcement."
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by west4570 View Post
                  Civilians VS Cops.

                  I suppose my question is why do you refer to us as civilians? Ive attended law enforcement academy, 6 years in infantry with the united states army and served my country honorably.
                  Recently I joined a lodge that has a few officers as members that always refer to anyone not an officer as a civilian. This is not the only case I have encountered. As I understand Police officers are public servants and are in place to help and protect the public. I have been noticing lately it seems your cities, counties and states you work for have you out writing more tickets and fines. I have even seen municipals lowering speed limits and changing other small rules and having you push them harder as though to make more revenue for your employer.
                  I'm looking forward to some other Officers response to my questions.

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                  • #10
                    Beginning to look like the troll cave needs another dose of spray. They're really out lately, and they all have agenda's Let's see if we can keep from feeding this one. Maybe he'll go away.

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                    • #11
                      I appreciate and thank those of you giving respectful answers and comments, but for those of you who don't (iowa&dingo) you seem to fortify the stereotype given to your profession. I'm not whining about getting tickets (i have never had a single one) nor do i have the knowledge of your rules and profession to debate anything with you. I do agree a night in jail would work just fine other than the cost to house and feed everyone who received a ticket I have fought and been wounded in many battles similar to what you could possibly face one day and I was referred to the forum by my fellow soldier and current Police officer. I will quit posting comments as per the rules and wait for more replies to what some of you think is a dumb question. Thanks again to you who shows some respect those outside of your profession.

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                      • #12
                        Another satisfied customer.
                        Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                        My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
                          Another satisfied customer.
                          Lol. Lot of them lately.
                          Prov 17:17 A friend loveth at all times, and a brother is born for adversity.

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                          • #14
                            The title of this thread shouldn't be "civilians vs. cops". It should be, "What's the difference between cops and civilians?".

                            A question which has been asked an answered a million times already. The search button is your friend.

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                            • #15
                              Civilians do not have the powers granted to Police Officers by State law. That's why we call them civilians. When I was in the military I referred to people as civilians too and I'm sure you do too. Members of the Armed Forces are referred to as Service Members and are thus not civilians. Why? Because members of the military are granted special status by Federal law that everyone else does not have.

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