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  • Purpose-built Police Motorcycle Info

    Hello All,

    Two years ago I worked with a group of designers to help develop many of the interior features of the Carbon Motors E7 purpose built police car. Carbon Motors

    It was a fascinating experience to research the problems so many LEOs have with their current patrol vehicles. Our design team presented many solutions and some of those ideas have been implemented into the final car. The E7 will be in production 2012.

    So I have a question. What do police officers that ride police motorcycles want? What are your main problems with your bike? Ergonomic issues? Equipment issues? I want to hear it all! Whats on your wish-list for the perfect police motorcycle?

    Last year I started a product design company with 2 friends and we are planning on designing the police bike of the future. Thank you for help in researching this innovative design!

    Stay safe,

    William Woods
    www.ideationEDGE.com

  • #2
    10 sec. quarter mile

    150mph top end

    abs brakes

    heated seat and grips

    good storage capacity

    adjustible seat and handlebars

    all day comfort

    MSRP <$15,000

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MTRJOC View Post
      good storage capacity
      So what does your bike have to store on a daily basis?

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      • #4
        Make it fast, with a HIGH power storage, (battery), chicks gotta dig it, light in weight, 30 cal twin machine guns and an Electro Magnetic Pulse ray gun thingy would be good too.

        I personally like the Harley look for wheels...BUT they continue to have problems and can vibrate apart...our units keep dying on traffic stops, (wont restart afterward)
        Ive seen the carbon car and have heard some bad things about it, so do well with the bike!
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        • #5
          That's going to be a tough market to enter. Guys who ride are often much more dedicated to their brand of bike than guys are to their brand of car. Harley and BMW, especially, but all brands. You're going to be fighting a lot of tradition.

          Unlike patrol cars, bikes often serve in a ceremonial roll as well. Drill teams, funeral escorts, etc. Tradition can be very important in those rolls, and esthetics are going to be a consideration.
          I miss you, Dave.
          http://www.odmp.org/officer/20669-of...david-s.-moore

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          • #6
            You START with a Harley - - -

            - - - and FINISH with a Harley.

            What you do in between - - - hmmmmm, I'll have to put a little thought into it and get back to you.

            "There's something undeniably right about a cop on a Harley!"


            (Sorry, gang, just couldn't help myself.)




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            "In fact, I know your rights better than you do!"

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            • #7
              Who is going to service this purpose-built motor, and where will the parts come from?
              Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

              I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MTRJOC View Post
                10 sec. quarter mile

                150mph top end

                abs brakes

                heated seat and grips

                good storage capacity

                adjustible seat and handlebars

                all day comfort

                MSRP <$15,000

                While they don't have a dedicated LE edition yet, IMHO the 2010 Concours 14 ABS currently comes closest (performance wise) to fitting your bill.






                http://www.motorcycledaily.com/30oct...concours14.htm

                http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/...s-ar80297.html



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                Disclaimer: The opinions I express here are mine and mine alone. They are not intended to reflect the positions/opinions of any other known person(s) or organization(s).

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                • #9
                  If the ergonomics are like the original Concours, it might not be that great for all-day patrol work. I had a Concours for 3-1/2 years. There was too much forward lean for riding all day long. If it had a more upright seating position like the BMW ST, it might be okay.
                  Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

                  I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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                  • #10
                    You won't have much luck with most of the departments in the DFW area. Some of us are decommissioning our motorcycle units because Officer Lozada was killed in a motorcade for Clinton. Sad day.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CruiserClass View Post
                      That's going to be a tough market to enter. Guys who ride are often much more dedicated to their brand of bike than guys are to their brand of car. Harley and BMW, especially, but all brands. You're going to be fighting a lot of tradition.

                      Unlike patrol cars, bikes often serve in a ceremonial roll as well. Drill teams, funeral escorts, etc. Tradition can be very important in those rolls, and esthetics are going to be a consideration.
                      Your absolutely right. Aesthetics and brand loyalty are powerful forces within the motorcycle world. But fighting tradition is what I do for a living! As a product designer I produce detailed concepts to push the manufacturers forward, that's how we see the features you all use on modern bikes today. Its a trickle-down effect. Great concepts make great products.

                      In my opinion, cops today don't have near enough well designed and thought out products tailored to their occupation. That's why I put a lot of detailed user research in all the designs I create. If you start with cops in mind on a ground-up concept, you can push the utility of a police motorcycle above and beyond just performance and aesthetics. I believe there is so much room for innovation here.

                      So what are the main problems with your current police rides?

                      Thank you all for your responses! The more info I collect the more focused and accurate my design becomes.

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                      • #12
                        Things for purpose built police motorcycle:

                        Comfort

                        Lots of storage - saddle bags, and rear compartment. Need to be able to hold rain gear, radar/laser, ticket books, in our dept (small printer and PDA), radio equipment, etc.. ability to securely hold a "long" gun (rifle or shotgun)

                        ABS brakes!!!

                        Engine cooling - able to "idle" for long periods without overheating

                        a really strong clutch/transmission

                        Comparably priced to other "police motorcycles"

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                        • #13
                          H O G
                          "The wicked flee when no man pursueth
                          but the righteous are bold as a lion"

                          Proverbs 28:1, inscription beneath NLEOM lion.sigpic

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