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    ...after seeing who are out there trying/ wanting to be a LEO.

    Well, I have been going to school and studying criminal justice for about a month now. In my classes 90% of students wants to be a cop and thats why they are taking the classes. I recently started to kind of be friends with people, chat, etc. Well, I just can't believe the quality of people, a few of them dressing, walking and talking like they are a big time thugs.

    I was just out on a break with like 7-8 of guys and gals and they were talking about drugs, how they do them, how he loves getting high every friday nights, they other one shows a pic out of his cell phone how it took him and his buddys' 5 hours to roll that gigantic pot, how the other guy likes driving when he is high and doing 140+mph and i chimed in and said, hey guys, in case you didnt know most agencies requires 2,5-3 years before use of pot and any other illegal drugs such as cocaine, heroin, etc. is an automatic dq and one of them said " yeah but they dont know that" (laughter by everyone) and a girl asked how they find out and i said polygraph, background investigation and another dude jumps in and explains how easy to beat polygraph and all. And this girl asked me if every dept does polygraph and i said 99% of them and she said that she will test for that 1% then. At that point I am upset but didn't say anything. I said that honesty is the key guys, and a couple of them laughed at me and I said once again, if you have done all that stuff you are saying you have done, i wish you best luck and we walked back in the class.

    P.S. one of these gentleman told us how he ran from the cops and blew multiple stops signs, got busted and had his DL suspended and once he got caught doing 135 on 65 and received a ticket for that.

    I looked at myself with shock said "wow, I must be the cleanest guy here"

    I was wondering if a lot of applicants are like this? If so, I am happy because I should have a good shot on being an LEO.
    Last edited by musclefan21; 09-15-2009, 10:32 AM.
    "Get a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life"

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    Yes....the supply of idiots is absolutely endless
    "I don't go on "I'maworthlesscumdumpster.com" and post negative **** about cum dumpsters."
    The Tick

    "Are you referring to the secret headquarters of a fictional crime fighter or penal complex slang for a-$$hole, anus or rectum?"
    sanitizer

    "and we all know you are a poser and a p*ssy.... "
    Bearcat357 to Dinner Portion/buck8/long relief

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    • #3
      Originally posted by crass cop View Post
      Yes....the supply of idiots is absolutely endless
      It's called job security
      It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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      • #4
        Don't worry about it, most of them won't make it past dq.
        "You don't want the truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall... I have neither the time, nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by yellowreef View Post
          Don't worry about it, most of them won't make it past dq.
          I agree. I just sat through a class about polygraphs too. The man that taught the class is a criminal investigator for SD and is a polygraph examiner. I believed what he said (despite how much I hate polygraphs) that they are 99% accurate and the things people do to "beat" polygraphs are about as stupid and useless as the tricks to beat DUIs.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by wirefire2 View Post
            I agree. I just sat through a class about polygraphs too. The man that taught the class is a criminal investigator for SD and is a polygraph examiner. I believed what he said (despite how much I hate polygraphs) that they are 99% accurate and the things people do to "beat" polygraphs are about as stupid and useless as the tricks to beat DUIs.
            Don't believe him. The accuracy and reliability of the polygraph is considerably below 99% and depends on the skill of the examiner and the specificity of the inquiry. Some people are not the least but disturbed when they lie, and others give positive reactions when they have done nothing wrong.

            See http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10420&page=4
            CONCLUSION: Notwithstanding the limitations of the quality of the empirical research and the limited ability to generalize to real-world settings, we conclude that in populations of examinees such as those represented in the polygraph research literature, untrained in countermeasures, specific-incident polygraph tests can discriminate lying from truth telling at rates well above chance, though well below perfection. Because the studies of acceptable quality all focus on specific incidents, generalization from them to uses for screening is not justified. Because actual screening applications involve considerably more ambiguity for the examinee and in determining truth than arises in specific-incident studies, polygraph accuracy for screening purposes is almost certainly lower than what can be achieved by specific-incident polygraph tests in the field.
            Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
            Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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            • #7
              Dont sweat it, they will all apply and get weeded little by little and before you know it, youll be the only eligible candidate in the pool with a job .

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              • #8
                Most of the people who apply for law enforcement have zero concept whatsoever of the job, or the requirements to be hired. Just go to a written test for any large city and you will see dozens of people who have no business even applying.
                Those who believe, ye shall receive.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by crass cop View Post
                  Yes....the supply of idiots is absolutely endless
                  True. They'll all dq, and then come to O.com and ask if what they did 6 months ago was really bad enough to dq them. They'll go to ask a cop, and proceed to have their posteriors handed to them. Study hard and go for it
                  Most people fail because they trade what they want MOST, for what they want at the MOMENT.

                  The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, WHO can know it?
                  -Jeremiah 17:9

                  Is it any surprise that cops don't trust anyone?

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                  • #10
                    wow!!!!!

                    one of those girls came HIGH to class today!!!!!!! and the other one was talking about her "rock" at home???

                    I am positive, these people are not there to be in the field, I think they are just bored or something...
                    "Get a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by musclefan21 View Post
                      wow!!!!!

                      one of those girls came HIGH to class today!!!!!!! and the other one was talking about her "rock" at home???

                      I am positive, these people are not there to be in the field, I think they are just bored or something...
                      At my University there is a large Criminology program with people just like that. I've seen students who on their Facebook pages openly post pictures of themselves using a giant bong, or passed out drunk on the floor. Right next to these are comments in their profile like "I am going to be a cop after grad!" Like everyone else said, these people will get weeded out. I'm glad that the LE application process is so thorough for exactly that reason.

                      If they're that open about their drug use to you, a practical stranger, they won't stand a chance against someone doing a background check, or a polygraph. Thankfully they are their own downfall.

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                      • #12
                        Pretty typical really, as in, you shouldn't be surprised. I would also avoid ANY voluntary association with that particular crew of handpicked idiots.

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                        • #13
                          That is why half of the people on ask a cop and the hiring section that inquire as to whether or not something will DQ them have a degree in criminal justice already.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mikeymedic View Post
                            That is why half of the people on ask a cop and the hiring section that inquire as to whether or not something will DQ them have a degree in criminal justice already.
                            Haha! Hilariously true!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joufy View Post
                              Haha! Hilariously true!
                              Here you are again, posting in Ask a Cop.Please read the rules.

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