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    I had a quick question I was hoping you all could answer about how various police agencies handle lockout situations (for example a person locks his or her keys in their car). Do any agencies provide tools and training to handle this situation? I know here in Fort Collins officers have minimal if any training or tools and tend to not attempt to unlock cars because of the whole liability issue, which seems like a good reason. Am I right to assume if it truly was an emergency where the police were present the glass would just be broken?

    I also have another question: could a locksmith potentially be held criminally accountable for inadvertently unlocking a door for a criminal? What if that locksmith was fairly diligent in checking ID and proof of ownership of the vehicle or house, but still ended up helping a criminal? I'm aware the locksmith could be sued, but I'm wondering if they could be considered an "accomplice" to the crime. This might be a question for a lawyer, but I would greatly appreciate any input from Law Enforcement Officers.

    Thank you!
    Fort Collins Locksmith

  • #2
    I am pretty sure the wording knowingly and unlawfully is going to be a big part of most crimes. So if there was a good ID check and proof of ownership as well as service provided in good faith. I believe it would be hard to catch a criminal charge as a Locksmith.
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    • #3
      the police are not the pop-a-lock guys. if you call me about locking your keys in the car i will tell you to hang up, dial 411, and ask the operator for a locksmith. lock your child in the car in this florida heat and i will break your window for you. as stated above if the locksmith checked ID and did everything in good faith he should be fine.
      Last edited by luckydog; 07-13-2009, 06:22 PM.

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      • #4
        Around here if someone is locked out the locksmith will come out, open the door and LE will check the residence to verify that person actually lives there still. Usually they look for mail in the residence.

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        • #5
          My department *may* unlock your car, some officers have the tools but the majority don't. The fire department will unlock your car if there are kids inside. Pets, its locksmith time. I don't have the tools, but as long as your physically capable I'll let you borrow my baton to break your own window. That way there's no question on if you wanted it broken or not.
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          • #6
            Where I worked we used the "Slim Jims" to help out when we could, until a woman filed a claim with the city for a damaged rubber door gasket. End of helping out. "We'll call a locksmith for you?", was standard response for a lockout after that.
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            • #7
              we unlock cars all the time . we have slim jim which I have never been able to work, and a plastic wedge and metal rod. operator has to sign a waiver for damage. you may be waiting a long time to get unlocked though. I did once have a locksmith get mad cause we were taking away his livelyhood.

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              • #8
                We call AAA or a tow company for lockouts.

                If you didn't verify who someone was and unlocked a car for them that ended up being stolen, you would likely not be crmiinally liable, but civilly you could.
                Last edited by cgh6366; 07-14-2009, 06:53 PM.
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                • #9
                  Most departments don't mess with locks unless there's someone dying inside.Then I'd just smash the window....

                  Seriously too many people have sued or tried to sue over damages. A few ungrateful people spoiled it for everyone.

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                  • #10
                    We unlock cars here. We have a slim jim and a nice kit that will get us in to just about any car. You have to sign a waiver for us to do it. I'm not a fan, but it's part of a small time department
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                    • #11
                      its good to have contact number of locksmith
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TexasAggieOfc View Post
                        We unlock cars here. We have a slim jim and a nice kit that will get us in to just about any car. You have to sign a waiver for us to do it. I'm not a fan, but it's part of a small time department
                        +1

                        Always get those waivers signed!!!!!!

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                        • #13
                          We use the air wedge and a long plastic coated rod with a hook here. Will attempt any reasonable lockout as long as a waiver is signed. I just rescued 2 16 month olds from a car last week using it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jamie_locksmith View Post
                            its good to have contact number of locksmith
                            Holly revive a dead thread.

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                            • #15
                              My agency only unlocks car doors in an emergency. Child locked in car, etc. That is accomplished in a manner which produces instant results, with no regard to the vehicle's appearance once the child /person is rescued. In a normal lockout situation the citizen is advised to contact a locksmith. With respect to any criminal problems, read my colleague's reply.

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