USBP laterals?

[shifty277]

Im just wondering if anyone knows of any dept. that accept laterals from Border Patrol?


Thanks!

[AZtribesman]

I know AZ POST does allow lateral certification for Federal L/E. But my Department made an ICE officer go through basic just to be safe.

[SgtCHP]

I would suggest that you determine where you want to live and work. Contact the agency you a interested in and ask their recruiter if the FLETC training you have undergone is accepted under their lateral programs.

Every state and every agency require minimum standards; yet, they may modify them for their own purposes. What one accepts another may not.

As a matter of practice, most agencies do not publish too much about lateral requirements.

[shifty277]

I would suggest that you determine where you want to live and work. Contact the agency you a interested in and ask their recruiter if the FLETC training you have undergone is accepted under their lateral programs.

Every state and every agency require minimum standards; yet, they may modify them for their own purposes. What one accepts another may not.

As a matter of practice, most agencies do not publish too much about lateral requirements.

Well put. Thanks a bunch!

[Migraman]

I had one of my academy classmates lateral to Metro D.C. PD about ten years ago. Another one of our Agents went to Seattle PD. I believe he lateralled but I'm not 100% sure.

[shifty277]

A friend of mine (testing for bp now) told me most federal LEA accept laterals. Any word on if this is true?


Thanks!

[AzPilot]

Federal to Federal - probably one of the better chances of getting a "lateral" from one agency to another. The BPA basic training course is fairly comprehensive in basic police skills, and is one of the ones that has a better chance of being accepted at another agency.

Many agencies are going to a format where there is a basic school (like CITP for 1811-type investigators), and then the specific agency (USSS, ATF, ICE, etc) does their own "add-on" school afterwards. Once someone has completed CITP, they should not have to do it again.

For Fed LE to State LE...whole different ball of wax. Most states (such as Arizona) do have a program which allows a waiver of basic training...if the applicant can demonstrate sufficient equivalency of training to what the state requires. Using Arizona as a further example, if you come from out-of-state, they have a 3-page matrix of topics on which you have to break-down the number of hours of training you received on each area (called "performance objectives"). Our POST reviews the training you've received, and if they deem it to be substantially equivalent, will let you be blessed as an Arizona Peace Officer, after taking driving, shooting, and PT tests, and sitting for a big written exam covering Arizona laws and basic police training topics.

However, if they training is not determined to be substantially equivalent to what you'd receive in a state-certified academy program, you'll have to go back though a basic training program to attain certification.

I suspect most states operate along these lines. Nowadays, there seems to be pretty good "portability" from state-to-state with peace officer certifications, but I'd imagine it's more hit-and-miss with Fed to State transitions, as many fed programs are more focused on investigations, and less on basic police skills and topics.

[shifty277]

Thanks a ton! Helps a lot.


DEA is federal right?

[yellowreef]

I had a partner go up to Seattle PD, and have to go through the whole academy. I've had a couple other classmates go on to other PDs. There are no guarantees, and with most departments you will have to undergo some kind of training. Subjects allowed to be waived will be the minority/exception.

[Sleuth]

Yes, DEA is Federal. CBP usually has lots of former BP, as did Customs Investigations, now folded into ICE.
There are really two career tracks in Federal: Police (BP, Park Police, National Park Service, etc.), and Investigations (ICE, DEA, ATF, FBI, etc.)

Neither is "better" or "worse", just different jobs.

[shifty277]

DEA runs patrols though dont they?

[Sleuth]

Nope, they are in the investigations track.
Where would they patrol?

[shifty277]

Nope, they are in the investigations track.
Where would they patrol?

I have no idea I thought i saw a picture on their site of 2 agents on a street searching a guy on their car or something couldve been anywhere though.




EDIT: Here it is: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/resources/job_applicants.html The first picture in the slide.

[R.A.B.]

DEA runs patrols though dont they?


Dunno if they patrol, but as seen on that crappy show on Spike T.V., they do run around and catch drug dealers out on the streets.

[shifty277]

DEA runs patrols though dont they?


Dunno if they patrol, but as seen on that crappy show on Spike T.V., they do run around and catch drug dealers out on the streets.

lol forgot about that show Good point.