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    My son is a Deputy Sheriff in Maryland. Recently, he was asked by his agency to attend DRE School. He has begun his training but I haven't had a real chance to talk to him about it. He goes to this school on his off days and still works his normal late shifts so the time we get to talk is very limited for now. I know that DRE is Drug Recognition Expert but I don't really know what the training entails or what his responsibilities will be upon completeion of the training. Can anyone here shed a little light on the subject? I would appreciate it. It will help me to have a reasonably intelligent conversation with him and ask good questions.

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    The Drug Recognition Expert program was developed under the IACP to provide officers training in detecting and removing drivers from the roadway that are impaired by drugs- including Depressants, Stimulants, Hallucinogens, PCP, Narcotics, Inhalants and Cannabanoids.

    Your son will be going through an intense classroom based course then continue on to testing of persons under the influence of drugs in a controlled setting. Our class traveled to the Maricopa County Jail ("Sheriff Joe's" Jail- complete with neon "Vacancy" sign) where we spent a week on midnights doing evaluations of inmates who were being booked to their jail.

    At the end of the course, he will have to show that he was able to determine the drug class that they were under the influence of. Then he will take a written examination- including several lengthy essay questions (the written portion of my test took 5 hours to complete- and I was the first one done in my class). Then he will have to defend the conclusions in his essays before a board of instructors before he can be certified.

    That he was selected to take part in this program speaks highly of him. This is not a course that just any officer can pass and add to their list of certifications.
    ---Cut the red wire---

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    • #3
      DRE school has about a 50% fail out rate, very hard school. I am scheduled to go in about 6 months already nervous.
      Originally Posted by VegasMetro
      maybe it’s me but I think a six pack and midget porn makes for good times?????

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      • #4
        The DRE program was developed and designed by the LAPD, in response to the fact that many MD's would not, and more incredibly could not, identify what drugs of abuse that subjects were under the influence of.

        One of the first tests of the program was a double-blind study conducted by Harvard(?) Med School, where mere LAPD motorcops competed against MD's to determine drug influence. Afterwards, urine samples were taken from the subjects and tested. The result was the LAPD determining the drugs on board the test subjects in greater number than the MD's.

        Congratulations to your son on being accepted and (hopefully) passing.
        "You're never fully dressed without a smile."

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        Three things I know for sure: (1) No bad deed goes unrewarded, (2) No good deed goes unpunished, and (3) It is entirely possible to push the most devoted, loyal and caring person beyond the point where they no longer give a 5h!t.

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        • #5
          I am a DRE and although not a walk in the park, very well worth it. KAA951 has hit on all the issues you might want to know about for your son copdad. If there was something more you wanted to know, try googling DRE program and it will bring up alot of information you may find interesting.
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          • #6
            Probably one of the toughest certificates you can get (and keep) in LE. Less then .1% (1 out of 1,000) LEOs in the country are DREs. It's mainly used in DUI cases but it has it's other applications.

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            • #7
              http://decp.org/experts/12steps.htm
              this site has a TON of info on DRE and what procedures officer follow to determine being under the influence.
              Originally Posted by VegasMetro
              maybe it’s me but I think a six pack and midget porn makes for good times?????

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              • #8
                We are having a tough time getting and retaining DRE's in southern NJ. Many do not keep up and loose their certification. Classes on hold and have been for some time.
                Being a good street cop is like coming to work in a wet suit and peeing in your pants. It's a nice warm feeling, but you're the only one who knows anything has happened.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stormz5192 View Post
                  We are having a tough time getting and retaining DRE's in southern NJ. Many do not keep up and loose their certification. Classes on hold and have been for some time.

                  NJ is not the only state having a tough time retaining DREs. I recently took my re-certification and we had about 6 in the class. Many officers are too afraid of the re-certification and simply let their certification lapse (I guess the Matrix still scares them).

                  I might have been nervous walking in to the re-certification (simply not knowing what to expect) but it was not that bad. Plus, I was not going to flush six months of training (intense training at that).
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                  • #10
                    Hardest school that I have yet attended in Law Enforcement. Well worth it however. Studied my *** off.

                    C
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mtxpro752 View Post
                      DRE school has about a 50% fail out rate, very hard school. I am scheduled to go in about 6 months already nervous.
                      Grab a matrix and start memorizing....
                      A Veteran is someone who at one point in their life wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America, for an amount up to, and including their life. That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today, who no longer understand that fact!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Charlie705 View Post
                        Hardest school that I have yet attended in Law Enforcement. Well worth it however. Studied my *** off.

                        C
                        +1 This process was harder than crash reconstruction school. By the time I was done, I wanted to take drugs.

                        I passed the school and got certified. I did about 80 evals before going to plain clothes. I let my certification lapse. By the time he is done, he will be able to spend about two minutes with someone and be able to tell what they took, how much, and when they took it.
                        If one man can make a difference, every man should.

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                        • #13
                          By the time I was done I was dreaming about CNS Depressants, Narcotic Analgesics, and Disassociative Anesthetics...... craziest thing ever. Very intense school, but a TON of great information. Made me realize how many people I let go from a traffic stop that were probably on something other than alcohol.

                          +100 on getting a copy of the matrices and starting now. There is ton of info on them and you have to have them memorized verbatem.

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                          • #14
                            I was one of the first of my agency to go through it a few years ago. Very tough class, but very well worth it! In accident reconstruction now, so we'll see how they compare. I wish him all of the luck!!
                            It's all fun and games 'till the cops show up!

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