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    I need to explain this... this sparked a big debate at my school today and I figured I ask everyone on here as you probably know.

    We had "class meetings" today, and for the Seniors we had the SRO come up to address a specific issue. The issue was about a very common teen practice, sending naked pictures to eachother on cell phones.

    The SRO said that if you're a guy and your phone gets taken away at school, and there are pictures on it girls have sent you of them naked, that it's a felony and whoever the phone belongs to will be arrested on the spot and taken to jail.

    Here are my issues with this:

    Talking about Seniors and since 90% of the Seniors are 17, I'm assuming they're talking about two 17-year olds involved. So if two 17-year olds are dating and the girl takes a naked picture of herself (read: not an actual sex act) and sends it to the guy, and the DOES NOT forward it to anyone else but simply has it on his phone, that is an arrestable offense and a felony? What about the girl, since she's the one taking the photograph and distributing it? He even referred to girls as "victims" in this sense.

    Legally, I just don't see how this holds ground. Someone explain? Would this hold up in court?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Columbus View Post
    Legally, I just don't see how this holds ground. Someone explain? Would this hold up in court?
    Maybe, maybe not. I'd have to see the pictures to be sure. (Do NOT send them to me)

    Perhaps if you posted an example of what you're talking about we could give you a better idea.

    Or maybe they just don't want you bringing your phone to class. Leave it in the car.

    You pervert.
    "Why is common sense so rare?" - Me

    By the way.. They aren't "Clients" or "Customers" they're CRIMINALS... sheesh

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    • #3
      P.S. I wish we had phones like this when I was in school. The best you could hope for was something the size of a cinderblock. It could sometimes make and receive a phone call.

      It cost about $3000 and you had to be a drug dealer or real estate agent to afford one.

      If you wanted to take pictures of anybody it had to be safe enough the the Photomat guy wouldn't call the cops.
      "Why is common sense so rare?" - Me

      By the way.. They aren't "Clients" or "Customers" they're CRIMINALS... sheesh

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 10-31Mike View Post
        Maybe, maybe not. I'd have to see the pictures to be sure. (Do NOT send them to me)

        Perhaps if you posted an example of what you're talking about we could give you a better idea.

        Or maybe they just don't want you bringing your phone to class. Leave it in the car.

        You pervert.
        Lol, I give you an A+ for that response.

        By the way, my phone was eaten by my dog a few days ago so all the pictures that were sent to me are now gone.

        They have seperate rules to prevent phones in class though, the "naked pictures" thing seems completely seperate and they're treating it as an individual issue. So I don't know... just can't see how that's an arrestable offense and a felony no less.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Columbus View Post
          I need to explain this... this sparked a big debate at my school today and I figured I ask everyone on here as you probably know.
          There's your first mistake. Most of us don't and we'd have to look it up. (and it's too late for me to do any research)

          Originally posted by Columbus View Post
          The SRO said that if you're a guy and your phone gets taken away at school, and there are pictures on it girls have sent you of them naked, that it's a felony and whoever the phone belongs to will be arrested on the spot and taken to jail.
          It shouldn't matter if you're a guy or a girl.

          Just because they take away your phone doesn't mean they can check out all your pictures (they will anyway, but not not because they can, more for fun)

          Weather it's a felony or not would be a state thing, unless it was bad enough to get the Feds involved. You should read your states laws (all of them, just because you're a good citizen) to be sure.

          As far as the phone being eaten by your dog... The pictures are still there. The phone and the pictures will eventually come out. Even if you "deleted them" more than likely they can be recovered unless they have be overwritten. Delete does not mean delete untill the data has been physically overwritten by something else.
          "Why is common sense so rare?" - Me

          By the way.. They aren't "Clients" or "Customers" they're CRIMINALS... sheesh

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 10-31Mike View Post
            There's your first mistake. Most of us don't and we'd have to look it up. (and it's too late for me to do any research)



            It shouldn't matter if you're a guy or a girl.

            Just because they take away your phone doesn't mean they can check out all your pictures (they will anyway, but not not because they can, more for fun)

            Weather it's a felony or not would be a state thing, unless it was bad enough to get the Feds involved. You should read your states laws (all of them, just because you're a good citizen) to be sure.

            As far as the phone being eaten by your dog... The pictures are still there. The phone and the pictures will eventually come out. Even if you "deleted them" more than likely they can be recovered unless they have be overwritten. Delete does not mean delete untill the data has been physically overwritten by something else.
            I only specified the genders because 99% of the time it's a girl sending to a guy.

            But I don't think the pictures are still there, lol. I mean my phone was physically destroyed, I don't think there could be any way to recover the memory. But that's beside the point...

            Well, thanks for the help 10-31 Mike. Guess I'll have to do some research on Ohio laws (I don't know where to begin) since I'm just a "good citizen" as you put it, haha.

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            • #7
              Its a sad state of affairs in our country when our youth send those type of pictures to others via their cell phones. Just another example of this country going down the drain.
              Retired LASD

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Retired96 View Post
                Its a sad state of affairs in our country when our youth send those type of pictures to others via their cell phones. Just another example of this country going down the drain.
                Yea umm, back in the "old days" im sure you guys just went under the bleachers out there in the football fields and saw eachothers "goodies"

                Nothing has changed, teenagers are teenagers, only they got some cool techonology at such a young age i wish i had

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                • #9
                  Legal. Unless the picture was obtained illegally. (2) 17 year olds that sent consensual photos = no crime. For safety sake, store the phones in a secure folder in your phone and don't show them to anyone.
                  Being a good street cop is like coming to work in a wet suit and peeing in your pants. It's a nice warm feeling, but you're the only one who knows anything has happened.

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                  • #10
                    Here technically illegal. Photos showing genitalia or nipple/ sexually explicit images of a real person under 18 years old is a felony. Doesn't matter if the person receiving it is the same age. It is sexual exploitation of a child. Now if a DA will charge or not I couldn't tell you.
                    The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Monkeybomb View Post
                      Here technically illegal. Photos showing genitalia or nipple/ sexually explicit images of a real person under 18 years old is a felony. Doesn't matter if the person receiving it is the same age. It is sexual exploitation of a child. Now if a DA will charge or not I couldn't tell you.
                      Would the girl face similar charges? For the photographing and distributing?

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                      • #12
                        Actually by statute yes. I doubt the DA would prosecute, but you never know. Now if the reciever sent it to his freinds there would be a much greater chance of prosecution.
                        The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                        • #13
                          The difference between pornography and erotica, is the lighting. So I would need to see the pictures......

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                          • #14
                            In California I would say technically it is a crime since we have a statute that covers sex under 18years old (261.5PC). It technically is against the law for two underage (-18) people to even have sex as no one under that age can give 'consent'.

                            Now, seriously I think you would be hard pressed to find any DA in California to issue that charge since it is so minor.

                            I think you realistically would be more open to 'school' policies on decency.

                            scrubb
                            “You sleep safe in your beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do you harm.”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 10-31Mike View Post
                              P.S. I wish we had phones like this when I was in school. The best you could hope for was something the size of a cinderblock. It could sometimes make and receive a phone call.

                              It cost about $3000 and you had to be a drug dealer or real estate agent to afford one.

                              If you wanted to take pictures of anybody it had to be safe enough the the Photomat guy wouldn't call the cops.
                              Haha! You and I are around the same age.

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