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    so i have been reading on some other post that on your application there is a question "Have you ever committed or been an accomplice to an undetected/unprosecuted crime" in this instance what is the definition of a crime? i mean i have smoked pot (who hasn't) so i am assuming i would have to put that down, but i havent done anything else that i believe would be considered a crime. i dont go the speed limit all the time would i have to put that down? i am not being sarcastic either i really dont know so that is why i am asking. thank you.
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    Use common sense in regards to this question. Unless its some obscure law, everyone with a little bit of common sense should grasp what is illegal or not...and what you believe the agency is looking for. Things like have you ever picked up a prostitute...stolen tools from your neighbors shed...attempted to break into a place or attempted to harm somebody? Trespass? Think along those lines instead of the time you were drunk and got a bit too loud on a public street. Yes, technically disorderly but not worth mentioning (unless you were arrested for it).

    On the other hand, some people think they have broken the law when it wasn't an issue. For example back when I was 18 or 19, some friends and I were in the woods drinking beer around a campfire. There was a drought and a statewide ban of outdoor fires was in effect. Well, campfire turned into a brush fire that burned out about an acre of woods. I thought this would be a career ender for me because I'm thinking arson. The BI laughed at me...

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    • #3
      ok thank you. i figured as much to use common sense but i also do not want to give any reason for me to get DQed and i figured i have all you guys here to pick your minds so i might as well ask.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by FireCop86 View Post
        so i have been reading on some other post that on your application there is a question "Have you ever committed or been an accomplice to an undetected/unprosecuted crime" in this instance what is the definition of a crime? i mean i have smoked pot (who hasn't) so i am assuming i would have to put that down, but i havent done anything else that i believe would be considered a crime. i dont go the speed limit all the time would i have to put that down? i am not being sarcastic either i really dont know so that is why i am asking. thank you.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by FireCop86 View Post
          so i have been reading on some other post that on your application there is a question "Have you ever committed or been an accomplice to an undetected/unprosecuted crime" in this instance what is the definition of a crime? i mean i have smoked pot (who hasn't) so i am assuming i would have to put that down, but i havent done anything else that i believe would be considered a crime. i dont go the speed limit all the time would i have to put that down? i am not being sarcastic either i really dont know so that is why i am asking. thank you.
          For purposes of your reply, a crime is any offense defined as such by the laws of your state. Okay, I know that sounds a little "in your face". If smoking marijuana is illegal in your state, then having smoked it as you stated, would require you to answer "Yes" to the question. Keep in mind that this is a fairly common question. It's not going to result in a DQ unless the crime is a felony, a serious misdemeanor, or one which has been repeated numerous times.

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          • #6
            ...campfire turned into a brush fire that burned out about an acre of woods. I thought this would be a career ender for me because I'm thinking arson.
            Nope, with one exception, in MD fire crimes require intent. That exception being negligently causing a brush or field fire on the property of another is a violation of the Natural Resources Article and it is only a civil infraction and not criminal.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by FireCop604 View Post
              Nope, with one exception, in MD fire crimes require intent. That exception being negligently causing a brush or field fire on the property of another is a violation of the Natural Resources Article and it is only a civil infraction and not criminal.

              Thats what I later learned but I went in for my polygraph thinking that I had committed arson and would probably be DQ'ed. I was sweating that one. The examiner put me at ease by explaining it (after laughing).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FireCop604 View Post
                Nope, with one exception, in MD fire crimes require intent. That exception being negligently causing a brush or field fire on the property of another is a violation of the Natural Resources Article and it is only a civil infraction and not criminal.
                Violations of Natural Resources article in the state of Maryland are Criminal, not Civil. Everything from failing to have your fishing license in your possession to hunting while impaired by alcohol. While some violations don't carry jail time, fines for most are a max. of $500.00 for a first offense.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FireCop86 View Post
                  so i have been reading on some other post that on your application there is a question "Have you ever committed or been an accomplice to an undetected/unprosecuted crime" in this instance what is the definition of a crime? i mean i have smoked pot (who hasn't) so i am assuming i would have to put that down, but i havent done anything else that i believe would be considered a crime. i dont go the speed limit all the time would i have to put that down? i am not being sarcastic either i really dont know so that is why i am asking. thank you.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FireCop86 View Post
                    so i have been reading on some other post that on your application there is a question "Have you ever committed or been an accomplice to an undetected/unprosecuted crime" in this instance what is the definition of a crime? i mean i have smoked pot (who hasn't) so i am assuming i would have to put that down, but i havent done anything else that i believe would be considered a crime. i dont go the speed limit all the time would i have to put that down? i am not being sarcastic either i really dont know so that is why i am asking. thank you.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LA DEP View Post
                      Not me either!
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                      • #12
                        well congrats too all that didn't! (not being sarcastic either) i made a dumb mistake and know i will have some explaining to do. anyways i want to thank all of you for your advice. i only asked this dumb question to make sure i don't mess up on my application or anything like that. i would hate to get DQed because i wasn't clear on a question they asked me. stay safe guys!
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