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    Just wondering what departments in CA. other than South Gate, USC, and the City of Norwalk have Public Safety Officers. I am looking for info in order to comapre the positions between the many departments we have in CA. If your dept. has PSO's feel free to comment or provide some answers to the questions below. ( non-CA LEO's feel free to provide info )

    What is their pay scale ?

    Full time or part time ?

    Are they part of the police department or are they part of another city department ?

    Are they sworn or nonsworn ?

    Armed or unarmed ?

    Can they issue citations ? Detain ? Arrest ?

    Any POST trainning?

    What kind of units do they drive ? And how are they marked ?

    Are they on the police radio freq. or do they have their own ?

    Do they have a rank structure ?

    Can they work other positions ( ie jailer, dispatcher, parking ) ?

    Do they patrol city wide or are they restricted to city property ?

    24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year or just when needed ?

    Same uniforms and patches as PD or different colors ?

    Are they issued badges ? If so, do they say police on them ?

    Are they "accepted" by LEO's or are they seen as "wan-a-bes" ?

    I have many more but, I ll leave at these for now.

    Thanks.

  • #2
    Originally posted by SGPSO View Post
    Just wondering what departments in CA. other than South Gate, USC, and the City of Norwalk have Public Safety Officers. I am looking for info in order to comapre the positions between the many departments we have in CA. If your dept. has PSO's feel free to comment or provide some answers to the questions below. ( non-CA LEO's feel free to provide info )

    What is their pay scale ?

    Full time or part time ?

    Are they part of the police department or are they part of another city department ?

    Are they sworn or nonsworn ?

    Armed or unarmed ?

    Can they issue citations ? Detain ? Arrest ?

    Any POST trainning?

    What kind of units do they drive ? And how are they marked ?
    Are they on the police radio freq. or do they have their own ?

    Do they have a rank structure ?

    Can they work other positions ( ie jailer, dispatcher, parking ) ?

    Do they patrol city wide or are they restricted to city property ?

    24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year or just when needed ?

    Same uniforms and patches as PD or different colors ?

    Are they issued badges ? If so, do they say police on them ?

    Are they "accepted" by LEO's or are they seen as "wan-a-bes" ?

    I have many more but, I ll leave at these for now.

    Thanks.
    Just go be a real cop, you are heading towards trouble this route.

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    • #3
      Research to your heart's content:

      http://www.post.ca.gov/Hiring/Job_Opportunities/
      Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

      [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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      • #4
        Sorry for my ignorance, but what the heck is a Public Safety Officer??? Like a mall security type or someone that is involved in actual law enforcement?
        Your Gauging Intelligence From An Ignorant Scale

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        • #5
          Originally posted by vacop4274 View Post
          Sorry for my ignorance, but what the heck is a Public Safety Officer??? Like a mall security type or someone that is involved in actual law enforcement?
          Cops on a budget. They typically take low priority reports and such.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LT Dangle View Post
            Cops on a budget. They typically take low priority reports and such.
            Guess it depends where you are at......

            We have PSOs in my hometown (BTDT) and are/were LEOs....we just had an additonal mission of supporting the Volly Fire Dept.

            Several places in MO still have them.....ALL OF THEM are LEOs....they just have additional missions of Fire and/or EMS tacked on to their jobs.....

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            • #7
              Im going to assume that you are talking about something like a community service officer? If so then here are your answers....if your talking about a security gaurd type thing then i dunno....

              oh and most depts. I know of in socal have them some do more then others and some are more in office rather then field just depends.

              What is their pay scale ? Depends each department...our cso's are approx. 3k to for 4k a month.

              Full time or part time ? Most are Full time

              Are they part of the police department or are they part of another city department ? Police Department

              Are they sworn or nonsworn ? Non sworn

              Armed or unarmed ? unarmed/ however they may carry O.C. spray or baton

              Can they issue citations ? Detain ? Arrest ? Citations yes, detain & arrest no

              Any POST trainning? No

              What kind of units do they drive ? And how are they marked ? Depends on the dept. usually around socal they are in white marked police vehicles with clear markings of a CSO or PSO. Ours drive Vans and Explorers

              Are they on the police radio freq. or do they have their own ? Same Channel

              Do they have a rank structure ? Dont think so

              Can they work other positions ( ie jailer, dispatcher, parking ) ? Yes

              Do they patrol city wide or are they restricted to city property ? Patrol

              24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year or just when needed ? ...and Day & night

              Same uniforms and patches as PD or different colors ? different colors - remember they are CSO not police officers....most of them don't want to be seen as an LEO.

              Are they issued badges ? If so, do they say police on them ? Yes & Yes

              Are they "accepted" by LEO's or are they seen as "wan-a-bes" ? CSOs are very very very useful and are a lot of the times their to take the paper for things. They also provide assistance and cover on non emergency calls so the officers can respond to priority calls.

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              • #8
                Im going to assume that you are talking about something like a community service officer? If so then here are your answers....if your talking about a security gaurd type thing then i dunno....

                oh and most depts. I know of in socal have them some do more then others and some are more in office rather then field just depends.

                What is their pay scale ? Depends each department...our cso's are approx. 3k to for 4k a month.

                Full time or part time ? Most are Full time

                Are they part of the police department or are they part of another city department ? Police Department

                Are they sworn or nonsworn ? Non sworn

                Armed or unarmed ? unarmed/ however they may carry O.C. spray or baton

                Can they issue citations ? Detain ? Arrest ? Citations yes, detain & arrest no

                Any POST trainning? No

                What kind of units do they drive ? And how are they marked ? Depends on the dept. usually around socal they are in white marked police vehicles with clear markings of a CSO or PSO. Ours drive Vans and Explorers

                Are they on the police radio freq. or do they have their own ? Same Channel

                Do they have a rank structure ? Dont think so

                Can they work other positions ( ie jailer, dispatcher, parking ) ? Yes

                Do they patrol city wide or are they restricted to city property ? Patrol

                24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year or just when needed ? ...and Day & night

                Same uniforms and patches as PD or different colors ? different colors - remember they are CSO not police officers....most of them don't want to be seen as an LEO.

                Are they issued badges ? If so, do they say police on them ? Yes & Yes

                Are they "accepted" by LEO's or are they seen as "wan-a-bes" ? CSOs are very very very useful and are a lot of the times their to take the paper for things. They also provide assistance and cover on non emergency calls so the officers can respond to priority calls.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LT Dangle View Post
                  Just go be a real cop, you are heading towards trouble this route.

                  If I wanted to be a real cop I would go for it. I have been offered the position several times, but have yet to accept it. For now I am very happy being a PSO. I think I can make a bigger difference were I am at with my rank and senority. If I accept the police officer position I would have to start over at 0. I am not ready to do that yet.

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                  • #10
                    As Bearcat mentioned, PSO's can mean different things in different areas.

                    Technically, my title is PSO because we do police, fire, and EMS.

                    The CA folks have already posted, but I just wanted to add it in there.
                    I'm 10-8 like a shark in a sea of crime..

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                    • #11
                      In Ca. how is their training given? In house or modified academy setting?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Big Daddy View Post
                        In Ca. how is their training given? In house or modified academy setting?
                        In our dept. we do most of the training in house, report writing, officer safety, patrol procedures, dispatch. PSO's also attend an academy for an 832PC Course. In addition we also get trained by other depts. and agencies for specialized training, JDIC, Cal Gangs, Homeland Security.

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                        • #13
                          Anyone know of any PSO Departments in Texas?
                          If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

                          "The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SGPSO View Post
                            In our dept. we do most of the training in house, report writing, officer safety, patrol procedures, dispatch. PSO's also attend an academy for an 832PC Course. In addition we also get trained by other depts. and agencies for specialized training, JDIC, Cal Gangs, Homeland Security.
                            Thanx for the info! That was very helpful!

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                            • #15
                              I'm a PSO. Here it means POLICE, FIRE, and EMS. So I'm a fully sworn police officer and have Firefighter I & II along with MFR.

                              It's awesome, I couldn't be just a cop. I love working the street and then going to a fire in the middle of shift.

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