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    If a person regularly uses another person's vehicle, has people to vouch for that, and carries a duplicate registration and insurance card, what happens if the owner of the vehicle reports it stolen by that other person?

    Specifically, a parent lets a child use a vehicle regularly, or a vehicle is registered to one spouse and the other spouse uses it; there is a family argument and when the child or spouse goes about his or her business in the vehicle, the parent or other spouse reports it stolen, out of spite.

    What happens? Can the accuser be charged with filing a false report, and can the accused press charges for being falsely accused?

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    Originally posted by Minotaur View Post
    If a person regularly uses another person's vehicle, has people to vouch for that, and carries a duplicate registration and insurance card, what happens if the owner of the vehicle reports it stolen by that other person?

    Specifically, a parent lets a child use a vehicle regularly, or a vehicle is registered to one spouse and the other spouse uses it; there is a family argument and when the child or spouse goes about his or her business in the vehicle, the parent or other spouse reports it stolen, out of spite.

    What happens? Can the accuser be charged with filing a false report, and can the accused press charges for being falsely accused?
    Atleast in Va, the felony charge would be "Unauthorized Use" which the actual owner of the car (the registered owner) has to get the warrant or the officer can since it's a felony. It wouldn't be a false report by any means. I charged a lady with this and she did two years once. She was a crack addict who had always been allowed to use her fathers car and he told her she could'nt anymore and she took it and traded it for a crack rock and it was found destroyed. Even though she had been allowed to use the car in the past. Personally, IMHO it should all be a civil matter if you are dumb enough to let a crack head use your car or if you are a crack head and voluntarily give your car to a drug dealer (which is the norm in these cases) you deserve what you get. But I don't write the laws, I just enforce them.
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    • #3
      "Unauthorized Use" here, too.
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      • #4
        Unauthorized use? Really!? Even though the driver has always had permission to use the vehicle, and the owner is only reporting it out of spite. That's pretty unfortunate. Thanks.

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        • #5
          Doesn't matter if they always use it, if it's not theirs and someone does not know or approve of them using their vehicle... it's unauthorized use.
          The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed.

          I Am the Sheepdog.


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          that we are all that stands between
          the monsters and the weak." - Michael Marks


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          • #6
            In Indiana it would be criminal conversion at the least, auto theft at the most. Spouse couldn't report it stolen by the other spouse, though, as its a community property state and they both technically own the vehicle regardless of who registered it.
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            • #7
              Civil matter here - no stolen vehicle report would be taken by an officer on more than a few years. We're supposed to pull the driver out at gunpoint because a family member got his/her pants in a bunch and reported the vehicle stolen out of spite? Don't think so.

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              • #8
                We wouldn't even take a report.
                Where'd you learn that, Cheech? Drug school?

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                • #9
                  I think some people are jumping the gun here. If someone has authorization to use a vehicle and that authorization is never revoked you cannot have them arrested for stealing the vehicle. In the example given the owner only called out of spite and never revoked the permission to use the vehicle....


                  Specifically, a parent lets a child use a vehicle regularly, or a vehicle is registered to one spouse and the other spouse uses it; there is a family argument and when the child or spouse goes about his or her business in the vehicle, the parent or other spouse reports it stolen, out of spite.



                  No crime has occurred. Now if the owner told the person to no longer use it or not to take it then it would be stolen or unauthorized use.

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                  • #10
                    I"ve had a spouse call to try and report her vehicle stolen by her husband after she filed for divorce.....they weren't divorced yet so the vehicle still belonged to him also so he didn't steal it....but she couldn't comprehend that because he took the vehicle with him out of state....I told her it was a civil issue and she needed to take it up with her divorce attorney and left her squaking at me at her front door.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fuzz View Post
                      Now if the owner told the person to no longer use it or not to take it then it would be stolen or unauthorized use.
                      OK, thanks.

                      To be more specific, my sister-in-law pulls these controlling stunts with her 20 and 21 year old kids. They pay the insurance, they put gas in the vehicles, etc. They support her. She is a very controlling person in all aspects.

                      When she gets p*ssed at them for whatever reason, she says that if they think they're going to go out and use the cars she'll call the police and report the car(s) stolen. Now, these are cars the kids use to go to work, school, and yes, hang out with friends. As long as they were giving her enough money everything was fine.

                      So that's the reason for my question. And yes she would do it, she's that nasty. I've seen her interact with the police on other matters and it's a wonder they didn't arrest her for just breathing. But I digress... sorry.

                      The responses are interesting. Really different than what I thought. Sounds like the kids or anyone else who doesn't actually own the vehicle could be in for a "rough ride" with a spiteful owner.

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                      • #12
                        There's no criminal matter. The most I would do after explaining that I wasn't going to do anything would be a "If you happen to stop this person ask them to contact the owner" bolo. About 2/3 of our "stolen vehicle" calls are either this or "ghetto rent-a-cars" if you know what I mean.

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                        • #13
                          that would be unauthorized use here too, but it's not criminal. and no, calling the police about it would not be false report of a crime

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by StudChris View Post
                            There's no criminal matter. The most I would do after explaining that I wasn't going to do anything would be a "If you happen to stop this person ask them to contact the owner" bolo. About 2/3 of our "stolen vehicle" calls are either this or "ghetto rent-a-cars" if you know what I mean.
                            Thanks. I'm not a cop and don't know the law but my gut tells me that if I were a cop and I got a call like this, I'd want to give the caller/owner a serious tongue-lashing and dressing down for wasting my time, especially calling on her own kids. Then I'd walk away.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by luckydog View Post
                              that would be unauthorized use here too, but it's not criminal. and no, calling the police about it would not be false report of a crime
                              So it sounds like it would be a nuisance and waste of time. Not the sort of thing you guys need to be bothered with. That's why I give you props for doing the jobs you do.

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