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    When an officer has to use his service pistol on duty and shoots someone for whatever the justifiable cause to fire was, how long are you on Administrative leave for the investigation usually? Is IA as bad as they lead on to be on tv?

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    In SoCal no, they take the weapon used in the shooting that day and give you a loaner so they can inspect/test fire the weapon used to make sure it is functioning properly. The Chief is given a briefing in 72 hours to make a determination of Officers returning to full duty. During the first 72 hours the cop involved works inside doing admin stuff. Full "shooting review board" takes about 10 months, that's when they fully breakdown every split second of the shooting and tell you everything you did wrong and determine whether the Ofcr needs training or will be suspended for any violation of policy. The whole time between the shooting and the review board, the Officer is full duty on the street.

    Now in smaller agencies and in other parts of the country the Officer will have the gun and badge taken and be put on admin leave or assigned to an inside non-LEO position until it is all worked out which could take a year or more. This is very bad, it's punishing the Officers for doing their jobs, takes away a lot from a person to be treated that way.

    Our shooting team is different than IA.
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    • #3
      Our shootings are a minimum of 3 days off paid it may go longer if they can't get you scheduled in to see the head shrinker. Every dep involved in a shooting gets to sit down with the dept. shrink (most guys actually find it very helpful).

      As for IA well if somebody gets hit our homicide guys do the investigation and get to do the interview. IA is allowed to sit in but they have to keep their thoughts and questions to themselves. If nobody is hit then IA does the work up and the interview.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by mtxpro752 View Post
        Now in smaller agencies and in other parts of the country the Officer will have the gun and badge taken and be put on admin leave or assigned to an inside non-LEO position until it is all worked out which could take a year or more. This is very bad, it's punishing the Officers for doing their jobs, takes away a lot from a person to be treated that way.
        Every agency has their own policies and procedures. The above certainly isn't true for the department I worked for (about 220 sworn). For my agency (in the event of a "hit" (injured or dead suspect), the officer is interviewed by members of the Robbery/Homicide Detail and investigator(s) from the District Attorney's Office. The officer gives up his/her weapon so it can be checked for function by the firearms examiner handling the case (in our case LASD) and for ballistics comparison with recovered bullets/casings. He/she is given a "loaner" until it can be returned (usually within three or four days).

        The officer meets with the department psychologist before returning to duty (usually after three days) and unless there's some special circumstances (ie: questionable shoot) the officer is back to whatever his/her regular assignment was. RHD reviews the circumstances of the shooting for existence of possible criminal violation(s), then forwards the investigation to delegated department personnel for policy review. The DA's Office reviews the shooting for legality of officer's actions. The department and DA's Office might not return their official findings for a year, but (unless there's something extremely unusual about the incident) the officer should have returned to full duty, with available OTf within three days. They are not placed on administrative leave, except under the most extremely unusual circumstances.
        "I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken."

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        • #5
          I think its about 3 days paid leave here.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by mtxpro752 View Post
            In SoCal no, they take the weapon used in the shooting that day and give you a loaner so they can inspect/test fire the weapon used to make sure it is functioning properly. The Chief is given a briefing in 72 hours to make a determination of Officers returning to full duty. During the first 72 hours the cop involved works inside doing admin stuff. Full "shooting review board" takes about 10 months, that's when they fully breakdown every split second of the shooting and tell you everything you did wrong and determine whether the Ofcr needs training or will be suspended for any violation of policy. The whole time between the shooting and the review board, the Officer is full duty on the street.

            Our shooting team is different than IA.
            Hey, he forgot Special Order 24, which requires a visit to the Department Psychologist for a debriefing of the incident. Can't hit the street until that's done.
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            • #7
              surfs up!!!! Its a paid Hawaii vacation

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              • #8
                Either way, ALOT of trees will be cut down for an officer involved shooting.

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