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  • JSD73
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    Originally posted by CragCrawler View Post
    Have you read said book? There are a ton of books out there on this topic and I would like a good recommendation on one so that I don't wast my time and money on a book that is (a) no good (b)not credible, or (c)Have nothing that will help defusing situations that could get out of hand.

    Thanks for the advise phlip. I like it when someone explains something that is to the point and easy to understand .
    As a matter of fact, YES, I have. It seems to have been mentioned a few times in this thread.

    For those that find it worthless, you'd do well to learn the art of "talking." As I've gotten older, I've learned that I'd rather talk for 20 minutes, than fight for 2. It's not the be all end all but it's a start to another side of LE.

    I don't know about 8 steps, but I've been using the 7 step violator contact for the past ten years and it's something that for the most part, defuses the traffic stop situation right from the start. Once you introduce yourself and your agency, ask for the license and insurance...you get the why am I being stopped question and you merely have to tell them, once I have your info and know who Im talking to, I'll be more than happy to tell you........haven't had it fail yet.

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  • BklynsFinest347
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    I think its stupid. I'm not a social worker, I'm a cop. Nuff said...

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  • Modzilla
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    Originally posted by Resq14 View Post
    PS Bonus points to anyone who can identify the song played for the majority of the above clip...
    Hmm, cant get the main tune, sounds like some sort of theme tune though.

    The start is Robocop.

    i give myself 1 point for that.

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  • Modzilla
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    Originally posted by Kieth M. View Post
    I, on the other hand, learned a lot. The guy who wrote the book Verbal Judo and taught the course I attended was Dr. George Thompson. We at LAPD, geez maybe 20 years ago, were the 9000 member victim pool he must have made a ton of money on. But I applied it in my work...

    The next day, I made a traffic stop and did the eight-point method of contact...who I was, what agency/division I worked for, why I stopped them, my need to see their license, reg, and insurance info, then I asked if there was any lawful reason why they committed the violation. The violator said, "no," and handed me all I had asked for. I never turned my back on the technique, again. I found the stuff he taught to work.
    Ahhh, good ol George.

    His 8 step is bull**** though, i am about to let you into the secret of good law enforcement.....................the 3 step!!

    3 words is all it takes.....

    License, reason?, ticket.

    Then it's back on patrol!

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  • Resq14
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    Originally posted by Kieth M. View Post
    Hey, Resq14, doesn't Cabot Cove have an inordinate number of mysterious deaths? And what's it like for the local cops, when Angela Lansbury sticks her nose into them?


    (and that's local SHERIFF and deputies, not cops...)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srq3RSBm2SY



    PS Bonus points to anyone who can identify the song played for the majority of the above clip...

    PPS - A special Maine link for you, Kieth M.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_...tephen_King%29
    Last edited by Resq14; 09-28-2007, 03:56 AM.

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  • 83cane
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    Verbal Judo, another tool for the tool box.

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  • Kieth M.
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    Hey, Resq14, doesn't Cabot Cove have an inordinate number of mysterious deaths? And what's it like for the local cops, when Angela Lansbury sticks her nose into them?

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  • Resq14
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    Originally posted by CragCrawler View Post
    Have you read said book? There are a ton of books out there on this topic and I would like a good recommendation on one so that I don't wast my time and money on a book that is (a) no good (b)not credible, or (c)Have nothing that will help defusing situations that could get out of hand.
    I don't know if there are "a ton"... I'm pretty sure that the "Verbal Judo - The Gentle Art of Persuasion" by George Thompson is the foundation of the seminars that are held. If you buy into it, it's a good book. If you don't, then you probably will think it's not a good book. You mileage may vary.



    There are a couple of other VJ books by Thompson, as seen here, that are a little more specific in nature.

    Amazon.com Verbal Judo

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  • jerseyshorecop
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    a few years back Verbal Judo used to have a Retired LT. from a big city PD giving the course. He was something of a contrast to Dr. Thompson who comes off like a hillbilly and wouldn't have gone over with us. This LT was pretty good but apparently was getting burned out from travel and line of B.S. he was selling. After lunch on the last day he comes back three sheets to the wind and gets in a beef in front of the whole class with a NJSP D/Sgt. who is a real stand up guy and gentleman who gave this shill way more respect then he should have got. Somehow I managed to keep my big mouth shut......for once...

    Needless to say it pretty much blew it for the book, keychain and cheat card sales to this class.

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  • Kieth M.
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    I, on the other hand, learned a lot. The guy who wrote the book Verbal Judo and taught the course I attended was Dr. George Thompson. We at LAPD, geez maybe 20 years ago, were the 9000 member victim pool he must have made a ton of money on. But I applied it in my work...

    The next day, I made a traffic stop and did the eight-point method of contact...who I was, what agency/division I worked for, why I stopped them, my need to see their license, reg, and insurance info, then I asked if there was any lawful reason why they committed the violation. The violator said, "no," and handed me all I had asked for. I never turned my back on the technique, again. I found the stuff he taught to work.

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  • CUFFS137
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    Cheesy way to market good field interview skills IMHO. I had a in service training course on it, and learned nothing. Take good people skills, including the sneaky verbal tactics that alot of experienced street cops use, attch the word "judo" to it, and make some $$$. When I can talk an arrestee into tossing his/herself to the ground, then I'll call it verbal judo.

    I'm going to start verbal Muay Thai. It is a little more aggressive, perhaps even brutal (verbally). But, the end result is the same. Want to buy it?

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  • CragCrawler
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    Originally posted by JSD73 View Post
    type in Verbal Judo in a search engine....there's a book that's titled exactly that, Verbal Judo.

    Just as said above, it's about talking to someone, communication, getting them to do what you want without mother fin them
    Have you read said book? There are a ton of books out there on this topic and I would like a good recommendation on one so that I don't wast my time and money on a book that is (a) no good (b)not credible, or (c)Have nothing that will help defusing situations that could get out of hand.

    Thanks for the advise phlip. I like it when someone explains something that is to the point and easy to understand .

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  • Phlip
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    Verbal Judo relies on two things, IMHO.

    1. An ability to relate to an individual enough so that you can at least pretend to "see the world from their eyes".
    2. Never ask questions you want specific answers to.

    Did you hit your wife? vs. When did you stop hitting your wife?

    Have you been drinking tonight? vs. How much have you been drinking tonight?

    Why do you want my ID officer? "Because I told you I wanted to see it!"

    vs

    Why do you want my ID officer? "Ah, you know how it is, my boss just likes to know who I talk to when I'm out here."

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  • cgh6366
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    Gerbil Voodoo is far more effective anyway!

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  • JSD73
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    type in Verbal Judo in a search engine....there's a book that's titled exactly that, Verbal Judo.

    Just as said above, it's about talking to someone, communication, getting them to do what you want without mother fin them

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