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  • Fed Physical Security Specialist Training?

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    Last edited by LakeshoreNWI; 08-17-2015, 03:19 PM.

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    Errr....what Federal Agency are you with that doesn't have a deal with FLETC.....?

    If you are military/DOD, the services have Physcial Security Training .....

    Other than that, get with ASIS and check their programs out. They cost out the wazoo buts the going standard for non-Federal folks....

    http://www.asisonline.org/

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      Last edited by LakeshoreNWI; 08-17-2015, 03:19 PM.

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      • #4
        Your agency need not be a FLETC “partner agency” to send you down to the basic physical security course. Also, NCIS runs a month long course about 2 times a year; it covers physical security and various assessments. If you need info send me a PM.

        What is the scope of your work? This will help steer you in the right direction.
        Originally posted by SSD
        It has long been the tradition on this forum and as well as professionally not to second guess or Monday morning QB the officer's who were actually on-scene and had to make the decision. That being said, I don't think that your discussion will go very far on this board.
        Originally posted by Iowa #1603
        And now you are arguing about not arguing..................

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          Last edited by LakeshoreNWI; 08-17-2015, 03:20 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LakeshoreNWI View Post
            Most of the ASIS offerings seem to be for those who are attempting to get certified, not basic entry level courses.
            Thats the best I can come up with off the top of my head.....

            As Jon stated, get with one of the Military services and see if you can't get in and train with them. Army has a 3 week basic school. Not sure what AF/Navy have.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
              Thats the best I can come up with off the top of my head.....

              As Jon stated, get with one of the Military services and see if you can't get in and train with them. Army has a 3 week basic school. Not sure what AF/Navy have.
              Are you referring to the H3 course cause mine was 11 days

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 31BLaxer View Post
                Are you referring to the H3 course cause mine was 11 days
                Mine was 10 days.... Not sure why I wrote 3 weeks.

                0080 school at FLETC is 15 days (aka 3 weeks) or at least was when I went thru it......

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                • #9
                  Yeah..mine was 10 days but day 11 was "graduation" day

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LakeshoreNWI View Post
                    I have been newly hired as a federal physical security specialist
                    What is that??!! Man everyday when I hear of a new govt job I'm really starting to wonder if it's to big of a machine. If I had someone on a traffic stop tell me he was a "Federal Physical Security Specialist" I'd say right, and I'm a storm trooper 1st class.....Here's your citation sir have a good day

                    I would have swore he was making up some sh**, then called my buddies and been like guess what I just had, LOL! Soooo, what does this consist of?
                    Ignored: Towncop, Pulicords, TacoMac, Ten08

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by creolecop View Post
                      tell me he was a "Federal Physical Security Specialist"
                      You do realize some (not all) Federal Physical Security Specialists are Deputized as Special Deputy US Marshals....just like LEOs on Federal Tasks Forces and not only carry weapons....but are allowed to fly armed and make arrests based on their duties....?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                        You do realize some (not all) Federal Physical Security Specialists are Deputized as Special Deputy US Marshals....just like LEOs on Federal Tasks Forces and not only carry weapons....but are allowed to fly armed and make arrests based on their duties....?
                        No, thats why I asked "What is that" I've never heard of that. Clearly it must exist but I've never heard of that in my travels or on any forums.

                        I couldn't possibly know the rest of your post because......I don't even know what they do or that they existed. Is it it's own duty, or is that a fancy resume way of saying a gate guard at a base.....asking I really have no clue as stated in my 1st post.
                        Ignored: Towncop, Pulicords, TacoMac, Ten08

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                        • #13
                          Security Specialists, aka 0080’s (for the job series assigned to this discipline) are one of the wider fields in the federal government. The disciplines cover information, personnel, and physical security programs; and everything in-between. Some serve as Chiefs of Police while others perform protective operations for cabinet level secretaries and yet still others serve as Antiterrorism Officers.

                          Unlike some of the more narrowly constrained positions in the Fed, 0080s can work any one of the several program areas cited. Some are as Bearcat noted; armed with arrest authority, others conduct vulnerability assessments of critical infrastructure, while others are relegated to sedentary policy work. While a 0080 (Security Specialist) may supervise a physical security program and the guards or police (0085s/0083s) working that mission, they themselves are not guards in any stretch of the imagination.

                          Most 0080s start out at the GS-9/GS-11 range (first line/management level) and go up from there.

                          FWIW, the Office of Personnel assigns a job series to every job in the government and applies a title to each. While some agencies tend to follow the guidance from OPM, others can and do apply working titles such as Special Agent, Inspector, Liaison Officer and so on.
                          Originally posted by SSD
                          It has long been the tradition on this forum and as well as professionally not to second guess or Monday morning QB the officer's who were actually on-scene and had to make the decision. That being said, I don't think that your discussion will go very far on this board.
                          Originally posted by Iowa #1603
                          And now you are arguing about not arguing..................

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sgt jon View Post
                            Security Specialists, aka 0080’s (for the job series assigned to this discipline) are one of the wider fields in the federal government. The disciplines cover information, personnel, and physical security programs; and everything in-between. Some serve as Chiefs of Police while others perform protective operations for cabinet level secretaries and yet still others serve as Antiterrorism Officers.

                            Unlike some of the more narrowly constrained positions in the Fed, 0080s can work any one of the several program areas cited. Some are as Bearcat noted; armed with arrest authority, others conduct vulnerability assessments of critical infrastructure, while others are relegated to sedentary policy work. While a 0080 (Security Specialist) may supervise a physical security program and the guards or police (0085s/0083s) working that mission, they themselves are not guards in any stretch of the imagination.

                            Most 0080s start out at the GS-9/GS-11 range (first line/management level) and go up from there.

                            FWIW, the Office of Personnel assigns a job series to every job in the government and applies a title to each. While some agencies tend to follow the guidance from OPM, others can and do apply working titles such as Special Agent, Inspector, Liaison Officer and so on.
                            wow, I tell you the federal govt sure does know how to simplify things huh? LOL!
                            Ignored: Towncop, Pulicords, TacoMac, Ten08

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by creolecop View Post
                              Is it it's own duty, or is that a fancy resume way of saying a gate guard at a base.....asking I really have no clue as stated in my 1st post.
                              Depends on the Agency. When you deal with the Miltiary, for the most part they have no powers of arrest....unless they are rated as a Police Chief or perhaps a Anti-Terrorism Specialist that does stuff in risky locations.

                              Other US Gov agencies will allow some of their folks to become Special Deputy US Marshals and they are allowed to carry, make arrests, fly armed, and all that j***.

                              Some Security Guards get the SDUMS Commission based on who they work for and what they do. A lot of the Security Guards in the DC area have it and if you do somethign stupid, not only can they arrest you but it will be on Federal Charges and one has to appear in Fed Court.

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