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  • Decontamination tip from OC exposure

    I've seen recent threads about being sprayed by OC. The most effective way I've found recently is the combination of Blue Dawn Dish Soap mixed with Johnson & Johnson Baby Shampoo. I was exposed in November of '92 and we had no clue about decontamination and what to really expect. We just used ivory soap, small bowl, and a wash cloth. One hose was nearby. Not a good combination.

    Lather up with both, let sit on face and exposed areas, (the dawn will help get the off your skin and the johnson & johnson will help dull the pain), and rinse off. re-apply as needed. The last time I was exposed it only took about 10-15 minutes to wash it off.
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    I was going to suggest eating your gun, it ends the pain very quickly... Hahaha, j/k, I always thought whole milk was the best instant relief.... Gosh, I had two gallons with me when I got sprayed..

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    • #3
      if you get some in your mouth. regular sugar will take care of the pain. the last time i was sprayed it managed to get in my mouth. the previous times i was sprayed i swear mucus from my lungs came out of my nose. not this time. i could not breath out of my nose. then the wind changed directions and i got it on my back and the back of my neck.
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      • #4
        Oc Dt

        I have a good friend that is a deputy in East Tennesse. He told me to do something similar. Take a bottle of Johnson's baby shampoo pour about half out and set aside. Mix one third sugar with water and mix with the shampoo. Use this to rinse your eyes out. He told me it works great. Has anyone heard of this idea? I'm sure I will get my exposure in the near future. Had a chemical splash in my face called Lemon Quat, was told the OC was about the same, of course the LQ blinded me for about four days...No fun.

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        • #5
          About the Lemon Quat

          Rather than potentially damage your eyes further in the future, I would simpy consult the manufacturer of Lemon Quat's MSDS sheet, which calls for plain water flushing in case of eye contamination.

          Here's a link:

          http://www.daycon.com/msds/LQUAT-msds.pdf
          Last edited by valvestem; 07-14-2009, 01:43 PM.
          21 Years, Retired, Pensioned

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          • #6
            Yeah, I knew that one ahead of time. When the accident happened, we had eyewash stations right there! However, the damage done from pure concentrate had already happened. Even with mere seconds of exposure. I ended up loosing 80% of my corneas from both eyes. Took a while to heal. Good part was it caused the company to rework their safety policy concerning this chemical. This is a company with over one thousand retail stores. So, I guess some good came from my mishap.

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            • #7
              I am glad to hear you are on the road to recovery of your injury.

              On another note, were there prodedures in effect for issues like this at your work place, and did they have a policy to mandatorily wear chemical safety googles/splash shield while handling the Lemon Quat? And were you educated in handling the chemical and trained in the use of the PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) and have the equipment readily available before handling the chemical? If not, you may have a case where a legal person should be consulted. If all the above mentioned equipment, procedures and education were given and available to you, and you did not follow policy, you know the rest.
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              • #8
                PPE's were available and required in other areas of the facility. No procedures were in place for the use of lemon quat. We basically had an area were large containers of concentrate were stored. Lines were hooked to the containers so deluted versions could be used storewide. I had a co-worker trying to open the top of a container. Me, being nice, offered to help open it. The container seemed pressurized and "POPPED" in my face. Instantly I was blinded. My co-worker helped me immediately to the eyewash station. That was back in January. I have since recovered fully. There was an investigation by the company that supplied the chemical and revisions made to include the use of PPE's when using Lemon Quat. I take it you are familiar with this chemical. Not sure how it compares to OC, somehow I don't think it could hurt any worse. I would not wish that on my worst enemy.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TNFarmerJim View Post
                  I have a good friend that is a deputy in East Tennesse. He told me to do something similar. Take a bottle of Johnson's baby shampoo pour about half out and set aside. Mix one third sugar with water and mix with the shampoo. Use this to rinse your eyes out. He told me it works great. Has anyone heard of this idea? I'm sure I will get my exposure in the near future. Had a chemical splash in my face called Lemon Quat, was told the OC was about the same, of course the LQ blinded me for about four days...No fun.
                  I'm glad to see your are recovering from the LQ exposure. I read the spec sheet and I would not want to get exposed to LQ.
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                  • #10
                    For our OC training, I was exposed to the fog. It basically covered my face and upper shoulders and shirt with the Sabre Orange color. We only got a few minutes with the hose and we were sent away to go run around.

                    I ended up taking off my shirt and the OC basically gave me a sunburn on my exposed skin. Upper arms, Neck, Upperchest witht the t-shirt line. Basically a really bad farmer's tan. I used dawn soap and milk in a large water bottle, but it was not nearly enough.

                    Best part is. All my partners said I got hit the worst (I was first and was caked in the fog) but they said I handled it the best, as I was helping others who were panicking. Never wanna do it again.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dtimoney View Post
                      For our OC training, I was exposed to the fog. It basically covered my face and upper shoulders and shirt with the Sabre Orange color. We only got a few minutes with the hose and we were sent away to go run around.

                      I ended up taking off my shirt and the OC basically gave me a sunburn on my exposed skin. Upper arms, Neck, Upperchest witht the t-shirt line. Basically a really bad farmer's tan. I used dawn soap and milk in a large water bottle, but it was not nearly enough.

                      Best part is. All my partners said I got hit the worst (I was first and was caked in the fog) but they said I handled it the best, as I was helping others who were panicking. Never wanna do it again.
                      My last time I got the fog. the instructor said he was doing us a favor by spraying us with the fog. I thought to myself the fog goes everywhere. I kept getting hit with the overspray everytime someone else got exposed. I was the third one in line to get exposed. Then I got it 12 more times. everytime I got to where I can open my eyes, here came the fog. it burned the hell out of my neck.
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                      • #12
                        50/50 mix of liquid maalox/water.

                        Doesn't do much for your skin, but washes the pain right out of your eyes.

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                        • #13
                          so we get sprayed this weekend. has anyone tried the saber cleanse/soothe product combo? is it worth the $$$. or is the dawn/baby shampoo mix work just as good?

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                          • #14
                            Baby shampoo/milk works pretty good.

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                            • #15
                              Baby shampoo, and fresh water.

                              Use an eye wash or sprinkler attached to a hose.

                              I'm an OC instructor Trainer.

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