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    So here is the scenario, you are in a car chase that comes to an end and the passenger bails. Do you pursue after them? If so why? What are the charges? My opinion is yes you pursue them if the resources are available. They easily could be fleeing and hide out to ambush you or solicit others to the scene (officer safety issues). Yet, legally unless there is some reason (not wearing a seatbelt, etc) you have no real reason to stop them. So what do you guys/gals do in this scenario?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Stay with driver, numero uno IMHO. Then search the vehicle. Thats ONLY if its just you. Learned a long time ago, person fleeing may only run to get YOU away from the real bad, bad person.

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    • #3
      Same as above. If your by yourself, stay with the vehicle and driver, let the passenger run. In further investigation, 9 out of 10 times you'll find out who the passenger was and maybe why they decided to run (drugs, warrants, etc.)

      If you have other units, then let the chase begin.

      I had a chase one time where the vehicle stopped and everyone bailed. I was by myself and backup was going to a shots fired call on the other side of the city and I chased the driver who later got away. When I returned to my vehicle, a passenger who bailed was waiting and the fight was on. I thought I was going to have to shoot him because he was high on PCP I think.

      Learned my lesson.

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      • #4
        When there's no back-up, I keep the driver entertained. The passenger gets away.
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        • #5
          I agree, the driver gets my full attention, especially if Im the primary in the chase. Backup guys can take off after the passenger if the situation is appropriate. Either way, it won't take much to figure out who the runner was.
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          • #6
            Let the passenger bail but try not to get tunnel vision and just focus on the car and driver alone. Key word TRY. After a high speed chase or not so high speed your adrenaline is pumping so much it happens. But like the other posts state you have a good chance of getting the passengers name from the driver.
            Hopefully back up is close by.
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            • #7
              Question would be "why are you chasing him?". Is it a rolling-stolen or a minor traffic infraction and he doesn't want to stop. Either way, the driver is the one with the immediate charges, let the passenger go rabbit. True, he probably has the dope but that's why he is in the passenger seat and not driving. They think these things out prior to hitting the road and they have procedures they follow. I think the days of the "dumb dope dealers" are about gone. They know our protocal and laws almost as well as us.
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              • #8
                Like others said, if you're by yourself, stay with the driver because that's the one you've already got charges on. Now, if you have backup and they can catch the passenger, I'm sure you'll find something to arrest him on.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by scannerson
                  So here is the scenario, you are in a car chase that comes to an end and the passenger bails. Do you pursue after them? If so why? What are the charges? My opinion is yes you pursue them if the resources are available. They easily could be fleeing and hide out to ambush you or solicit others to the scene (officer safety issues). Yet, legally unless there is some reason (not wearing a seatbelt, etc) you have no real reason to stop them. So what do you guys/gals do in this scenario?

                  Thanks in advance.
                  You have the right to control the subjects in the vehicle during a stop. If they are not cooperating (getting out and running) then they are resisting/delaying. Put out a description, direction of travel and reason for stop and let the cavalry go find the passenger as I am staying with the car. Who knows what the driver has or who else is still in the car.

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                  • #10
                    As a rookie, I've chased the passenger before. After he jumped across a couple of fences, he got away. When I went back to the car, it was gone. No tag, no nothing. Lesson learned. Stay with the car/driver.

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                    • #11
                      Stay with the car and driver, and with your running, unlocked patrol car.
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                      • #12
                        From a lesson learned the hard way a long time ago, stay with the driver. He is the one with all the charges. But also, BE AWARE OF THE PASSENGER!!!!!!! While you are dealing with the driver his buddy may come back. Remember, keep your head on a swivel.

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                        • #13
                          Stay with the driver no matter what.

                          In case you ride double...make sure your partner knows your plan..so he doesn't take off after the passenger. Use your radio to put out a description and dof so others can play.
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                          • #14
                            +1 for staying with the driver.

                            If you have the resources there, someone needs to go after the passenger. The Supreme Court says in a high-crime area you can pursue a person who flees your mere presence, so I can't imagine it wouldn't be ok to chase someone fleeing from an actual crime scene.
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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=scannerson]So here is the scenario, you are in a car chase that comes to an end and the passenger bails. Do you pursue after them? If so why? What are the charges? My opinion is yes you pursue them if the resources are available. They easily could be fleeing and hide out to ambush you or solicit others to the scene (officer safety issues). Yet, legally unless there is some reason (not wearing a seatbelt, etc) you have no real reason to stop them. So what do you guys/gals do in this scenario?

                              Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE

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