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  • I'd love to be a motor officer, but...

    My department has a motorcycle unit, and they're used for everything from regular patrol to dignitary escorts to parades.

    I've been riding motorcycles for about the last 10 years; commuting, day trips, multi-state trips, etc.; I'm a pretty avid motorcyclist.

    I could get paid to ride a motorcycle 5-6 months of the year. People chosen for the unit often have much less riding experience than me. I regularly take part in motorcycle training and skills sessions on my own dime. Why wouldn't I apply for the unit?

    'Cuz the fleet is gigantic, hulking, 900-lb. Harley-Davidsons and I'm somewhat shamefully prejudiced against the brand. At minimum, I think they're exactly the wrong motorcycle for our area of enforcement, which is a central metro area often with heavy bumper-to-bumper traffic. High-speed pursuits are a non-issue, by policy. I recently downsized my personal bike from a 1000cc to 650cc and absolutely love how much more maneuverable and easy to handle it is.

    Am I being unnecessarily critical of the HD platform?

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    I'd also love to be a motor officer, but...

    ... keeping that helmet shiny is just too labor-intensive and costly. Just ask L-1.


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    • #3
      Orangebottle,

      You've got to make it through motor school first. You'd be surprised how many people wash out.

      Our guys hate Harleys, but mainly because of the High Speed wobble. Everyone wants to go back to BMWs.

      There are two problem with BMWs (andf I am going to digress into one of my stories here.). First, they cost an arm, a leg and a left testicle to operate. We don't fix flats on our vehicles, we put new tires on. Before I retired it seemed like I was signing off on one or to new tires per motor per week and after looking at the bills decided I wanted to be a BMW motorcycle dealer in retirement. The other issue is they have a very limited safe operating weight. If you take a medium to below weight officer and add the weight of his vest, boots, gun belt, leathers, helmet, walkie talkie and all the other Bat Man crap he wears, his weight come very close to, if not exceeds the safe operating weight of the bike. This came to our attention when we had to investigate the fatal crash of a motor officer from another agency. In that case, another driver turned left in front of him, he center punched her, was thrown from his bike and killed. Our first thought was other driver at fault, failure to yield right of way. However, our Fatal team noted the officer was extremely obese. When you combined his body weight with all of his gear, he was 150 pounds over the safe operating weight of the bike. Had he been within the safe operating weight, he would have been able to stop well before hitting the other vehicle, there would have been no crash and he would still be alive. After that accident we pulled in every one of our motors (who were all skinny guys) and weighed them with their full gear on. They came within one pound of the safe weight.

      As far as polishing motor helmets - I will let the you in on the secret when you get ready to go to motor school.

      Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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      • #4
        Originally posted by not.in.MY.town View Post
        I'd also love to be a motor officer, but...

        ... keeping that helmet shiny is just too labor-intensive and costly. Just ask L-1.


        Working traffic was an agreeable break from handling calls for service. On the other hand wearing a helmet regularly makes the hair roots move close to the scalp causing a condition called traction alopecia. The roots lose their anchoring to the scalp and tend to fall.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BTDT2 View Post

          Working traffic was an agreeable break from handling calls for service. On the other hand wearing a helmet regularly makes the hair roots move close to the scalp causing a condition called traction alopecia. The roots lose their anchoring to the scalp and tend to fall.
          The special helmet polish mentioned in my previous posts is rumored to do wonders for that.
          Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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          • #6
            Originally posted by L-1 View Post

            The special helmet polish mentioned in my previous posts is rumored to do wonders for that.
            Yes your special polish triggers bodies to "turn on" the anagen phase of hair growth.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by L-1 View Post

              The special helmet polish mentioned in my previous posts is rumored to do wonders for that.
              Yup, it mentions it right in the directions under "other uses":

              "This product is an excellent remedy for dandruff, lifeless hair and even baldness and hair loss. Massage cat urine paste briskly into the scalp, allow it to be absorbed for thirty minutes to an hour, and then wash it out with lukewarm water (do not use soap or shampoo). Hair becomes clean and lustrous. If you do not rinse out the urine, the effect is even more powerful. Those who apply urine paste often do not turn grey but retain their original hair color. If regularly applied, hair might grow again on bald spots."

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              • #8
                Nothing wrong with Harleys. It’s the rider’s fault if they aren’t maneuvering well.

                https://youtu.be/M9MVY8swO5M
                Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

                I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by orangebottle View Post

                  'Cuz the fleet is gigantic, hulking, 900-lb. Harley-Davidsons and I'm somewhat shamefully prejudiced against the brand. At minimum, I think they're exactly the wrong motorcycle for our area of enforcement, which is a central metro area often with heavy bumper-to-bumper traffic. High-speed pursuits are a non-issue, by policy. I recently downsized my personal bike from a 1000cc to 650cc and absolutely love how much more maneuverable and easy to handle it is.

                  Am I being unnecessarily critical of the HD platform?
                  Ok, to answer your original question .....................

                  If your agency decides to experiment in neighborhood policing and issues you a Prius or a Camry squad car are you going to quit?

                  If the Explorer that you like is changed to a Tahoe that you think is too big for the city streets are you going to want to go back to Detention ?


                  The bottom line is really answered in L-1's post even though he doesn't come right out and state it.

                  Most LARGER agencies do quite a bit of research in to what vehicles they wish to use due to a number of factors such as survivailability , maintenance cost , availability parts/service and overall cost of operation

                  The LAST thing I would be worrying about if I wanted to be on a special unit was the vehicle the agency PAID me to drive/ride
                  Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                  My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ateamer View Post
                    Nothing wrong with Harleys. It’s the rider’s fault if they aren’t maneuvering well.

                    https://youtu.be/M9MVY8swO5M
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrLvYrKYVD8
                    Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                    My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                    • #11
                      I used to ride bikes (recreationally) years ago. I had a couple of close calls and decided it was time to walk away. Then, the midlife crisis hit and a friend sold me his Harley Softail. I ran across some YouTube videos with Police Motorcycle Rodeo competitions. Those guys were impressive on bigger Harley’s than I was riding. It looked like something I’d like to try.

                      I started out with some simple cone exercises. I quickly found out that I was WAY out of practice. Times have also changed since I had ridden in the past. Drivers are inattentive, stupid, distracted idiots. It was time to step away again. The guy I bought the bike from called and asked if he could buy it back. I didn’t hesitate.

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                      • #12
                        I'd like to do it but I hate writing piddly *** tickets.

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                        • #13
                          Last edited by Curt5811; 06-08-2018, 03:22 PM.
                          You can trust just about every officer you work with to risk their life to save yours, but don't ever leave your lunch in the breakroom refrigerator.

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                          • #14
                            I can barely ride a bicycle and haven't written a single summons in years...yeah that won't go well for me

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RequestingMeal View Post
                              I can barely ride a bicycle and haven't written a single summons in years...yeah that won't go well for me
                              There's always nude tricycling if you want to get back in the saddle...

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