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  • wearsastetson
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    Besides, no cop has ever had to run 1.5 miles in a foot pursuit or do situps. How about requiring a bench press of 1.5 times bodyweight for males, 1.1 times bodyweight for females, two pullups with 20 pounds added, and time them in a 250 yard run, and measure the force of a baton strike? Upper body strength and sprint speed are more realistic necessities for street work.
    Our's uses the Cooper Institute Standards.
    every female officer I have worked with hates cooper. If you're going to set a bar, why not make it straight?

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  • firemanjb
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    Per contract, we have an annual PT test that is voluntary. You have to score 30th percentile on Cooper norms in 3 of 4 areas. If you do, you get a $250 bonus that is presumably to help pay for health club membership. After taxes, though, the bonus is $168. Why the taxman taketh so much is beyond me.

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  • GPOC
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    Originally posted by pulisman View Post
    Look at what they hire!


    LOL................

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  • pulisman
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    Originally posted by GPOC View Post
    Yep...pretty sad huh? Even sadder is I would bet my paycheck that 70-80% of the total 1500 couldn't pass with an 80% score either


    Dead serious also
    Look at what they hire!

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  • GPOC
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    Originally posted by 18C3V View Post
    Thats it????

    Yep...pretty sad huh? Even sadder is I would bet my paycheck that 70-80% of the total 1500 couldn't pass with an 80% score either


    Dead serious also

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    Originally posted by GPOC View Post
    At ours they get 50-60 officers per year that participate in it out of approx. 1500

    Thats it???? There's like 1200 cops who are required to take it out of 2,000 at where I'm at. I love the program, 4 free days off a year just to stay in shape!!

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  • GPOC
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    At ours they get 50-60 officers per year that participate in it out of approx. 1500

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    Originally posted by romanguy View Post
    SFPD has a voluntary program....u can take the assesment once a year and it involves 1.5 mile run, pushups, situps, a sit-and-reach test and a BMI test... based on your score you can get up to 40 hrs. paid leave for the year, and i think u get at least 5 just for showing up and participating.... I think its a positive thing, although I'm not sure it really changes much... people who stay in shape do so for other reasons than a week off, and those who aren't in shape aen't gonna turn their life around for a couple days off, especially when u can work a little overtime and take comp hours and get a week off just as easily...
    Actually,
    It's all officers hired after July 1994 are required to take the PFT twice a year. It involves 1.5 miler run, pushups, situps (in two minutes), sit and reach, and a fat caliper test. If you get a certain score you accure twenty hours every six months.

    As for showing up and receiving 5 hrs, that's how it used to be. Now you have to take the whole test in order to receive partial hours.

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  • romanguy
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    SFPD has a voluntary program....u can take the assesment once a year and it involves 1.5 mile run, pushups, situps, a sit-and-reach test and a BMI test... based on your score you can get up to 40 hrs. paid leave for the year, and i think u get at least 5 just for showing up and participating.... I think its a positive thing, although I'm not sure it really changes much... people who stay in shape do so for other reasons than a week off, and those who aren't in shape aen't gonna turn their life around for a couple days off, especially when u can work a little overtime and take comp hours and get a week off just as easily...

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  • Chiller
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    We have 1 based on age groups that you can take once per year.

    1.5 run and agilty run are mandatory then you get to pick 1 out of either situps,pushups,bench press to use as your third qualifier


    90% gets 500$

    80% gets 250$


    If you send me your email I can send you our spec sheet

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  • ofc129
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    Originally posted by ateamer
    It seems to me that if an officer is out on the street and doing his job, he is in sufficient shape to do the job.
    Are you kidding me? Just because somebody manages to show up to work for 8-12 hours a day they must be in shape? "Sufficient" doesn't cut it anyway. I've never had much regard for people doing just enough to get by.


    You don't encourage fitness by punishing people for not meeting the standard. You encourage it by making it an incentive, like several departments described above.
    Funny, seems to work for the military. Meet the standard or move on. There's a standard to get hired, there should be one to stay hired. My old department followed the "here's a cookie" philosophy, and the differences in physical fitness standards across the board are noticeable. Much like the kid who gets good grades because his parents set a high standard for him, and the one that manages to half-*** study right before report cards come out so he can get a reward.

    Besides, no cop has ever had to run 1.5 miles in a foot pursuit or do situps. How about requiring a bench press of 1.5 times bodyweight for males, 1.1 times bodyweight for females, two pullups with 20 pounds added, and time them in a 250 yard run, and measure the force of a baton strike? Upper body strength and sprint speed are more realistic necessities for street work.
    Don't assume my department's mandatory fitness test follows military standards. In fact, the bench press you described is part of it, as well as a short run of increasing incline with heartrate monitor to measure cardiovascular fitness along with other events.

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  • jeeper
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    ElMonje, check with Appleton PD. I'm pretty sure their assessment is mandatory, however. They get incentive for scoring above average.

    FYI, I work across the street from you and I recall that there were some guys from here that looked into starting a similiar program here about 3 or 4 years ago. It never went anywhere.

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  • ateamer
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    Originally posted by ofc129
    Sorry, but I'm not that whiny. I believe in mandatory assessments, it could be my *** that's depending on some fatty who can't be bothered to maintain some sort of minimum physical standard. Attitudes like that are why we still fight the fat cop with a donut stereotype.
    Wrong. I have 26 years of weight training, 11 years of powerlifting competition under my belt and am in excellent shape. It seems to me that if an officer is out on the street and doing his job, he is in sufficient shape to do the job. If administrators want to screw with people who are on the job and have proven themselves, they need to pony up for it.

    You don't encourage fitness by punishing people for not meeting the standard. You encourage it by making it an incentive, like several departments described above.

    Besides, no cop has ever had to run 1.5 miles in a foot pursuit or do situps. How about requiring a bench press of 1.5 times bodyweight for males, 1.1 times bodyweight for females, two pullups with 20 pounds added, and time them in a 250 yard run, and measure the force of a baton strike? Upper body strength and sprint speed are more realistic necessities for street work.

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  • cst.sb
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    I just did our PARE (Popat) test to take the bike course. To encourage us to take the test yearly and to stay in shape they give us a t-shirt. I guess it's not working out to well, because they are still giving out 06 shirts... hopefully, when they order new ones they just leave the date off.

    I tried to find a video of the PARE but wasn't able to. But I did find one of a Vancouver Police Officer that's hilarious.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K20dR...elated&search=

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  • ofc129
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    Sorry, but I'm not that whiny. I believe in mandatory assessments, it could be my *** that's depending on some fatty who can't be bothered to maintain some sort of minimum physical standard. Attitudes like that are why we still fight the fat cop with a donut stereotype.

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