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  • IACP - National Consensus Use of Force Policy

    So the IACP has created the National Consensus Use of Force Policy. For those that haven't seen it or read it, it can be found here: http://www.theiacp.org/Portals/0/doc...e_Of_Force.pdf

    I was surprised by the fact it has a provision allowing for the firing of warning shots.
    Sign here. Press hard. You are making five copies.

  • #2
    COPs in NY aren't COPs in CA. There can't be a national standard.
    Now go home and get your shine box!

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    • #3
      The IACP is nothing more than a bunch of political hacks. My chief was a member but decided to cancel his membership due to some of their BS.
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      • #4
        Yep. Brought to you by the same guys who apologized for "racism "... and slavery. It's all our fault, even though it was 250 years ago...
        Now go home and get your shine box!

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        • #5
          Doesn't sound particularly different to most existing UoF policies I've read. I'm sure someone got paid to print that in 10 000 glossy pamphlets.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bpd303 View Post
            The IACP is nothing more than a bunch of political hacks. My chief was a member but decided to cancel his membership due to some of their BS.
            As soon as I saw that it was endorsed by CALEA, I knew that it was drafted to appease.

            “This life’s hard, but it’s harder if you’re stupid.”

            George V. Higgins--The Friends of Eddie Coyle

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            • #7
              I didn't get very far before encountering the phrase "tactical repositioning".. AKA "Runaway!!"

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              • #8
                Yep. They want us to retreat now.
                Now go home and get your shine box!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CCCSD View Post
                  Yep. They want us to retreat now.
                  The reason my 'warning shot' hit center of mass was because I was retreating and it threw my shot off???? That works for me lol. Did I mention that I hate CALEA and the IACP?

                  “This life’s hard, but it’s harder if you’re stupid.”

                  George V. Higgins--The Friends of Eddie Coyle

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CCCSD View Post
                    Yep. They want us to retreat now.
                    Welcome to the path we have gone down. This path started in 1995 and the rot has well and truly set in.

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                    • #11
                      I met an OZ cop during the nineties while working in SA. He told me about the restrictions you guys have, to the point where he had his tie pulled and flipped by some youngsters and he couldn't really do anything due to the threat of punishment.

                      There will be a wake up here soon...
                      Now go home and get your shine box!

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                      • #12
                        I can't speak for SA but our philosophy is that sucess of an operation is judged by how much force is avoided or minimised.

                        http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/bo...23-gtxcs0.html

                        It was obviously a great sucess over the last few days.

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                        • #13
                          SA being South Africa, not SA...

                          Now go home and get your shine box!

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                          • #14
                            our philosophy is that sucess of an operation is judged by how much force is avoided or minimised.
                            Hmmm. Not sure I'd want to work for a department who's first standard of success isn't whether all the cops went home alive.

                            You can avoid use of force almost every time if you just ignore what's happening and drive away. Success. I guess.
                            "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." -- GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

                            "With a brother on my left and a sister on my right, we face…. We face what no one should face. We face, so no one else would face. We are in the face of Death." -- Holli Peet

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tanksoldier View Post
                              Hmmm. Not sure I'd want to work for a department who's first standard of success isn't whether all the cops went home alive.
                              To be fair there is an overzealous focus on member safety which is corporately referred to as 'Zero Harm'. Unfortunately this means that if you get injured in the course of your duty, no matter how nible the reason, you will be counselled as to your judgement/tactics/decision making process.

                              You can avoid use of force almost every time if you just ignore what's happening and drive away. Success. I guess.
                              That's often what we are encouraged to do. Angry offender in housr with a knife? Pull up around the corner and wait for specialist units to deal with it. Car loads of youths turning up and getting agro when you make an arrest? All the members should just get back in the car and drive away. Offender comes out of house with an axe? Tactical withdrawal if possible. Avoid confrontation, avoid force.

                              Our current Operational Safety methods and philosophy are undergoing a review at the moment and the incident in Melbourne last week is also going to bring down a lot of criticism and scrutiny of our tactics so things might change a bit in the near future.

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