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  • Originally posted by BrickCop
    Ok you do realize that just you just condemned the "crybaby" cops by whining yourself about how the meanie Northern cops (according to you) feel about Southern PDs.

    I don't see anyone here asking for an apology. We can still rail against cop killers, this is a public forum where we discuss everything including professional courtesy issues. If those VA cops acted like a-holes I want to know about it, if they acted appropriately and the NYPD guys were out of line then I'd like to hear it.

    Oh and the comment about the "Liberal mindset" is quite frankly a bunch of bull****, you will not find a more conservative based group of cops up my way. I won't stoop to lumping Southern cops like you into a one size insult fits all category.

    About the incident that started this thread-

    IMO responding to a citizen complaint is perfectly reasonable. OTOH talking to the cops in the condescending manner (as reported by the NYPD cops) in response to the complaint just goes against what we believe the brotherhood is all about.
    Funny, I thought everyone was talking about the meanie southern cops. You're the one always posting in a 'condescending' manner, so why worry about some guy in Virginia, or are you the only one allowed to do that. Something I said must be true, since you take the time to break down, highlight and analyze every sentence. For all the rest, don't let the liberal Supreme Court of Brickcop reinterpret my post, I don't dislike cops from other regions, jerks/whiners are employed in every department, alot are where I live.
    The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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    • You just dont get it.

      Ponderous, F;ing Ponderous!!!!

      You VA guys and youre supporters for your actions are the debate brick wall. Some hoople from TN here talks about what we should REALLY be concerned with? I am concerned with my brothers and sisters being victimized by the system we serve. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DO IT TO OURSELVES. Lets all lock arms and sway in unity, and sing kumbayaa as long as its not in the left lane. We are all brothers, right? As long as you dont violate some stupid and insignificant VTL in the state of VA. What the F*** does someone doing wheelies, DUI's and racing or whatever you are babbling about have to do with this scenario of brother and sister officers wanting to get home to their families. You are as dense as you are narrow minded. I dont give a fiddlers fart what they teach in your academy, robot. There is no substitute for common sense and good judgement, with a dose of appropriately metered justice. Thank God you are secreted behind a road sign somewhere, acting the barrel chested bully with all of those vicious wild eyed arch criminal left lane drivers. Leave the life and death decisions to real cops who have to make judgement calls all day long in the interest of serving the public. Most of that isnt taught in a book.

      Unbelieveable. Truly. Your lack of understanding in this matter makes me sick. Without a grasp of how we should treat one another, you have no business standing shoulder to shoulder with real Police Officers.

      They were ON DUTY Law Enforcement Officers in uniform and marked autos. The only courtesy shown was us stopping for you.

      Further comments from you, other than apologies are useless. Go write a ticket, meter maids.

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      • Originally posted by 28Blue21
        Ok. That is not bad. He has a consequence to his actions. I can dig it. Maybe he loses a few days on an upaid vacation and or a ltter in his file. So this brotherhood deal is more at keep it in the family. Thing is, I bet, that a lot of others here might believe that you still were a rat. Not me, I find that a very acceptable course of action in some or even most situations. I still reserve the right to cite - and yet once again, I have not written a ticket on another cop.
        Maybe he loses a few days on an unpaid vacation and or a ltter in his file

        Please clear this up for me and if I'm wrong for the love of God tell me so because this thought sickens me. Are you saying you think it's ok to dock a man his pay because he somehow disrespected you????
        surly?? screw you....

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        • Look, let me clear something up....first, I don't write tickets to other cops, and I'm damn sure I'm in the South. Most of my friends don't either, BUT there are morons in any profession, and lately it seems, the rookies don't have that camaraderie we were raised on. I wouldn't stop a marked unit, or a personal vehicle with FOP, PBA or Law Enforcement tags unless they were damn reckless, and then I'd find out why, and what I could do to help. I drive an unmarked ( like NOBODY KNOWS it's a police car) CV off duty, have driven from Memphis to New Orleans, Nashville, Gatlinburg, Buffalo and even Niagara Falls, Canada, and have NEVER been stopped by other police. The most I got was a hand signal "55" from a Missouri Trooper as I was driving 70, which I waved to him and slowed down. I don't disrespect ANY other officer or his jurisdiction, and if I DO get stopped the first words out of my mouth will be "sorry, no disrespect intended". A white Crown Vic, with 4 antennas, blue deck lights, blue grills etc, with TN FOP tags isn't very inconspicuous, and I'd make it as a police vehicle anytime. So don't characterize Southern cops as the bad guys. As for the VSP, I wonder how they supposedly got a call from a caller in Tennessee, which is what I assume as the "she called BEFORE they got to Virginia"....didn't the THP escort to the state line give y'all a clue as to what was going on? It seems it could have been handled a little better by your guys. And the NYPD guys shouldn't take it so personal....you have over 30,000 officers, don't tell me there aren't a few guys with attitude. We have 2,000 in Memphis and I KNOW we have some A***holes here, but as whole, we're damn fine officers in a sh*tty situation. Play nice, guys, we ARE all on the same side.
          Southern Law Enforcement at its best............

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          • Originally posted by hoohoo
            Ponderous, F;ing Ponderous!!!!

            You VA guys and youre supporters for your actions are the debate brick wall. Some hoople from TN here talks about what we should REALLY be concerned with? I am concerned with my brothers and sisters being victimized by the system we serve. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DO IT TO OURSELVES. Lets all lock arms and sway in unity, and sing kumbayaa as long as its not in the left lane. We are all brothers, right? As long as you dont violate some stupid and insignificant VTL in the state of VA. What the F*** does someone doing wheelies, DUI's and racing or whatever you are babbling about have to do with this scenario of brother and sister officers wanting to get home to their families. You are as dense as you are narrow minded. I dont give a fiddlers fart what they teach in your academy, robot. There is no substitute for common sense and good judgement, with a dose of appropriately metered justice. Thank God you are secreted behind a road sign somewhere, acting the barrel chested bully with all of those vicious wild eyed arch criminal left lane drivers. Leave the life and death decisions to real cops who have to make judgement calls all day long in the interest of serving the public. Most of that isnt taught in a book.

            Unbelieveable. Truly. Your lack of understanding in this matter makes me sick. Without a grasp of how we should treat one another, you have no business standing shoulder to shoulder with real Police Officers.

            They were ON DUTY Law Enforcement Officers in uniform and marked autos. The only courtesy shown was us stopping for you.

            Further comments from you, other than apologies are useless. Go write a ticket, meter maids.
            Don't you think you're over reacting just a little?
            The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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            • No

              No, I don't. It is VA who overreacted.

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              • Memphis Cop makes a good point. If VSP was forewarned by this irate citizen as she was traveling in Tennessee, why eren't the VSP waiting at the border? I'm sure a curteous explanation of Va's requirements as the convoy entered the state would have come across as a much friendlier intrusion than a traffic stop much further along the road. Perhaps a part of the problem is the very size of NYPD operations. Every law enforcement agency in NYC is used to dealing with "convoys" from other agencies. I'm not NYPD, but my job deals with them on a daily basis. They would never interfere with another agencies operation. I'm sure they expected the same would be done in VA, especially after the escort through the other states. By the way the stop has made our local TV.

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                • Originally posted by tony.o
                  Don't you think you're over reacting just a little?
                  No, he's not. And I agree with him 100%.

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                  • Very nice post.

                    I know there are a LOT of great cops in the south. I certainly am not bunching the "south" into one bunch. There does however seem to be a lot of complaints about cops getting not only stopped, but summonsed in VA. A lot of these posts are just trying to find out why that is. What their way of thinking is etc.

                    To be honest a lot of the NYPD personel in the convoy were not ****ed off about the whole VA convoy stop. They didn't agree with it, but were not at all upset. They were more perplexed as to why a LEO would stop another especially while driving in marked cars.



                    Originally posted by MemphisCop
                    Look, let me clear something up....first, I don't write tickets to other cops, and I'm damn sure I'm in the South. Most of my friends don't either, BUT there are morons in any profession, and lately it seems, the rookies don't have that camaraderie we were raised on. I wouldn't stop a marked unit, or a personal vehicle with FOP, PBA or Law Enforcement tags unless they were damn reckless, and then I'd find out why, and what I could do to help. I drive an unmarked ( like NOBODY KNOWS it's a police car) CV off duty, have driven from Memphis to New Orleans, Nashville, Gatlinburg, Buffalo and even Niagara Falls, Canada, and have NEVER been stopped by other police. The most I got was a hand signal "55" from a Missouri Trooper as I was driving 70, which I waved to him and slowed down. I don't disrespect ANY other officer or his jurisdiction, and if I DO get stopped the first words out of my mouth will be "sorry, no disrespect intended". A white Crown Vic, with 4 antennas, blue deck lights, blue grills etc, with TN FOP tags isn't very inconspicuous, and I'd make it as a police vehicle anytime. So don't characterize Southern cops as the bad guys. As for the VSP, I wonder how they supposedly got a call from a caller in Tennessee, which is what I assume as the "she called BEFORE they got to Virginia"....didn't the THP escort to the state line give y'all a clue as to what was going on? It seems it could have been handled a little better by your guys. And the NYPD guys shouldn't take it so personal....you have over 30,000 officers, don't tell me there aren't a few guys with attitude. We have 2,000 in Memphis and I KNOW we have some A***holes here, but as whole, we're damn fine officers in a sh*tty situation. Play nice, guys, we ARE all on the same side.

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                    • The NYPD guys weren't ****ed?? They just want an explanation?? Explanations have been given....in both threads. What more do you want?? Two threads about this and a bunch whining and complaining about why they were stopped sounds like you want more than an explanation. What exactly do you want? Someone from VSP, other officers from Va. and other states have explained and gave their 2 cents worth, yet, people are still arguing and complaining over this. If it makes you feel better to blow the whole incident outta proportion, have at it...maybe you can set a world record for longest complaint. Could things have been done different? Maybe. This incident is petty compared to what is going on in the real world at this moment. Two hurricanes have wreaked havoc, the Missouri HP has lost four troopers since Jan., officers are being shot and killed in vehicle wrecks, and you are complaining about being inconvenienced for a few minutes. Hmmm makes me wonder where the courtesy and professionalism really is.
                      "...I'd never let you down, even if I could. I'd give up everything if only for your good..." 3 Doors Down

                      "Strength is when your body gives out and your heart and your mind take over"

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                      • Originally posted by nctroop14
                        The NYPD guys weren't ****ed?? They just want an explanation?? Explanations have been given....in both threads. What more do you want?? Two threads about this and a bunch whining and complaining about why they were stopped sounds like you want more than an explanation. What exactly do you want? Someone from VSP, other officers from Va. and other states have explained and gave their 2 cents worth, yet, people are still arguing and complaining over this. If it makes you feel better to blow the whole incident outta proportion, have at it...maybe you can set a world record for longest complaint. Could things have been done different? Maybe. This incident is petty compared to what is going on in the real world at this moment. Two hurricanes have wreaked havoc, the Missouri HP has lost four troopers since Jan., officers are being shot and killed in vehicle wrecks, and you are complaining about being inconvenienced for a few minutes. Hmmm makes me wonder where the courtesy and professionalism really is.

                        I've been reading this thread and the one on the NYPD rant in regards to this incident since it started. It seems to me that an "explanation" has nothing to do with professional courtesy especially in this case. Everyone gets an explanation as to why they are being stopped so where is the PC in that? The fact remains that a convoy of police vehicles were stopped in a less than diplomatic way which is the real insult here. I don't care about some bulls--t traffic law being bent or some such other nonsense. It would appear that from the way the whole thing went down that it was done in a belittling way and it didn't have to be regardless of what has been put forth here. I don't know what is so hard to understand about this. The issue isn't about explanations!
                        I've read all the hypothetical gibbersih that has been written here and it has absolutley nothing to do with the incident and shouldn't even be mentioned. As far as more important things going on and that this is petty, well there are always more important things going on and apparently this is not so petty to those who think they have been mistreated by someone or some agency they consider to be their borthers especially when it didn't have to be.
                        The bottom line is that this thread is not about an explanation but about trying to understand why this incident came to be. How hard would it have been to have someone contact the convoy via radio, cell phone, etc. without the need of pulling them over, and explain what was needed from them to enable the convoy to cross the state without any further problems in reagrds to vehcile laws if it was so important?
                        From what I have read here I see a lot of people asking why it was necessary for the convoy to be stopped and others saying how important traffic laws are, and they "must" be enforced, and you talk about being petty. Also what does cops being killed in the line of duty have to do with any of this? From my point of view with over thirty years of excperience in a major city police department I fail to see the propriety of the stop. I know that it could have been handled in a better way without any hurt feelings and it is because of attitudes like yours that prevents you from seeing exactly where the issue is. I also know that this type of incident wouldn't occur with the NYPD or PPD as we don't believe in hassling our own no matter where they come from. Just remeneber there is no one else on your side other then people who are LEO's. When you spit in their face you are only hurting yourself.

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                        • You didnt address my main question...what else do you want?? You going to keep talking about this or are you going to move on. Why are you making a big deal about it? This thread is getting more heat than the "Undercover Cop gets killed by Orlando PO" thread. If you want to keep griping about it and reliving it, go ahead. Live in the past. I have said my 2 cents. I'm going to go 10-41 and write a ticket to some unsuspecting Yankee.
                          "...I'd never let you down, even if I could. I'd give up everything if only for your good..." 3 Doors Down

                          "Strength is when your body gives out and your heart and your mind take over"

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                          • Originally posted by nctroop14
                            You didnt address my main question...what else do you want?? You going to keep talking about this or are you going to move on. Why are you making a big deal about it? This thread is getting more heat than the "Undercover Cop gets killed by Orlando PO" thread. If you want to keep griping about it and reliving it, go ahead. Live in the past. I have said my 2 cents. I'm going to go 10-41 and write a ticket to some unsuspecting Yankee.
                            It is obvious that the point was missed. An explanation isn't required here. There is no explanation. I haven't seen anyone from the VSP say that maybe it was handled in the wrong way and for that they are sorry. It's not real hard but so far the lack of that simple thing just goes to bolster the already persistent feeling of the NYPD basically being told to go F-Yourself by the VSP. Also I am not with the NYPD and this is the last I will be the second and last post about it.
                            By the way I hear you can bang out a lot of tickets in no time if you just sit outside Camp LeJeune and wait for some young marine in training before his demployment to Iraq to wander off base.

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                            • I can't speak for anyone else but myself. I wasn't looking for an explanation. I was merley trying to get an understanding of why it was done and is still being done. Thats all. Thats why this forum is here.

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                              • Here is a link to tour local news story of the incident for anyone that is interested.

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