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  • PeteBroccolo
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    Originally posted by Vtfuzz
    That's fine and dandy, but frequently the only back-up an officer has around these parts is their off duty brother...I've been called out for emergencies (officers need assistance) more times than I can keep count. Nobody gets take home cars except the chief.
    Well, that certainly makes sense then in your Agency's case, and for your own protection, I assume that your Chief and/or governing authority authorizes you and your fellow officers to be so equipped and respond in this manner. Hopefully my comments were not taken by you as a slap to your Agency and situation. My remarks were directed at women/men who do NOT HAVE TO respond while off duty, but CHOOSE to deal with matters that would be better handled if they were to merely act as good witnesses and use their cell phone to call the on-duty gals/guys.

    My Force does not issue take-home vehicles, but certain Units do require our members to take vehicles home during "quiet" hours to provide immediate emergency response, but it is on a rotational basis and we share use of such vehicles.

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  • WHC166
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    Originally posted by PeteBroccolo
    I have been known to get involved in stuff while off-duty, but even I draw the line at frequenting Sirens-R-Us for my own vehicle.

    I have had to have my patrol car at home because of being on-call during quiet hours, and have even offered to drop off my old patrol car and pick up the replacement car, after my boss gave me authority to have my wife and child along with me because I was doing same on a day off, but it is just too likely to get one in a deep pile of dung.

    Off-duty should equal rest and relaxation, not wantin' to keep givin' 'er!

    "Control, C401 - 10-33, member needs a life! Bring barbeques, steaks and lots of liquor! I am out of the car on 'ignore' 'til further notice!"
    That's fine and dandy, but frequently the only back-up an officer has around these parts is their off duty brother...I've been called out for emergencies (officers need assistance) more times than I can keep count. Nobody gets take home cars except the chief.

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  • PeteBroccolo
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    I have been known to get involved in stuff while off-duty, but even I draw the line at frequenting Sirens-R-Us for my own vehicle.

    I have had to have my patrol car at home because of being on-call during quiet hours, and have even offered to drop off my old patrol car and pick up the replacement car, after my boss gave me authority to have my wife and child along with me because I was doing same on a day off, but it is just too likely to get one in a deep pile of dung.

    Off-duty should equal rest and relaxation, not wantin' to keep givin' 'er!

    "Control, C401 - 10-33, member needs a life! Bring barbeques, steaks and lots of liquor! I am out of the car on 'ignore' 'til further notice!"

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  • SinePari
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    Once the novelty of zipping through traffic with lights and sirens wears off, most full time POs could care less about that stuff when they're off duty.

    There has never been an incident when the duty Sgt says, "Holy crap! Get those off duty guys to that scene now! We need help!" Then you put your little Starsky & Hutch light on top

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  • weiner
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    Florida law is a bit ambiguous on that but it would take a pretty hard case for me to even think about doing that. When Im in my POV I will, maybe, maybe, be a good witness.
    Everything else is a personal liability issue and why go down that slippery slope?
    If its a traffic accident and no one appears hurt, then Im like the others around me wanting to get outta there before the police arrive and block up all the traffic, including me.

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  • marshaldan
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    I have a portable. The only time that I used it was to warn oncoming when a combine was broken down on on the road.
    You do not want to run into farm machinery. It has sharp, pointy things and is not moving.
    Making a stop in a pov is just dumb. And should be unlawful. I did mail a cite to the RO that cut me off. He paid it.

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  • Pedro56
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    Originally posted by gamecockfan
    What A tool
    I agree...I know guys that have radios, lights alternating lights etc. Screw that. When I get of work the only way I get involved is my cell phone. Of course unless it is some heinous crime or a shoot out or something that couldnt just be avoided.

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  • DOGCHOW
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    Originally posted by BayCityBrawler
    Ok, bearing that, lets say fixed mount or non-fixed lights are on an officers POV. Nothing says an officer can, nor does anything say an officer cannot put them in his/her vehicle. But, Florida law does exempt LEO's, thus bringing some to conclude that is allowable, how would you feel? Put yourself in Florida. Something dosn't feel right about it to me, but at the same time I think that its just a different vehicle than the officer drives at work and his powers of arrest are no different so is it really that bad. I can't seem to really take a side.

    does a chef still wear a chef's hat when he eats at someone elses house????? he's still a chef, but an off duty chef......he can still assist with the cooking when he's not working w/o having to look like a chef......

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  • DOGCHOW
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    Originally posted by BayCityBrawler
    I've never though about doing this with my vehicle because when I'm in my civies I put my blinder's on. This subject had come up at my agency recently because one of our officers installed a blue light in his POV. Now nowhere does it say in the law that officers can specificaly do this, but it does exempt officers from the "Unlawful blue light" law. Also there is no place in our policies that say you cant do this.

    I'm looking for opinions on this, how do you all feel?

    Talk about your "taking the job home with you" scenario.....someone doesnt seem to know the term "off duty"..........a thought to ponder.....if your partner pulls someone over, and the s**t hits the fan, wheres his backup???? they all think he's off duty when he is in a POV and are not aware or prepared to back up as they would be an on duty cop in a marked unit......god forbid he ever takes his family in the car and some dirtbag remembers the car as a unit (how would they know the difference - to them blue lights = cop)......things to think about....

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  • mosetti
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    There is no real reason for a police officer to have emergency lights in his POV. If you roll up on an accident, put on your h***ard lights, put out your warning triangle, and maybe a road flare.

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  • Rally
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    Is it just me, or don't we have to spend enough of our own money in this profession? So if he rolls up on a traffic collision and uses his lights, is he taking the paper? If you aren't taking any enforcement action, just act like a normal person and help if you want. You don't have to identifiy yourself as off duty LEO to tell people to not stand in the street.

    This is just beyond me. And like I have said before, you better always be armed if you are doing this in my opinion. Any time you are letting people know you are a LEO, assume there is a crook nearby that wants to kill you. Or one that follows you home, and you just put your family and property at risk! What for?

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  • gamecockfan
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    What A tool

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  • tbg15
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    Originally posted by OffDuty
    Bad idea, with big time personal liability issues.

    Suppose that you haev these in your POV.. for whatever reason(I cant think of a good one) and you decide to go help someone, and you end up in an accident. Do you think that your department insurance is going to cover you, since you arent in a dept vehicle? Yeah, right. And your own insurance company wont foot the bill either, more than likely.

    My house, and all my possessions just aint worth it. If the department wants me to work off duty they will give me a car. Mine does.. and I drive it sparingly off duty for that reason.
    I agree... and I'm not an officer. I know this is different, but I used to be a paid firefighter. I changed jobs and started volunteering. I asked my insurance company about red lights on my pov. The agent said it was not a problem since I was not compensated for volunteering.

    If you are using a light on your pov for career purposes, I could see potential for a problem to arise.

    P.S... Sorry for the post- I got carried away and just realized what forum I was reading.
    Last edited by tbg15; 09-05-2005, 12:19 PM.

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  • Lawdogg
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    Why would you want a blue light in your car?? It can only develop problems for you at some point in regards to your safety while off duty or even your families. Plus if you start putting blue lights in your POV and there is no law stating that you can or cant, the next thing you know you are going to have a Blue Light Bandit problem, the public is going to question seeing a blue light in a ford focus per say and not want to stop for it, or if this officer does start stopping vehicles with it and it hits the news that the person got charged for not stopping then any tom dick and harry that can get their hands on a blue light might start stopping cars, I think you might be opening up a pandoras box with that. Now I have a code 3 dashlaser that stays in the trunk of my car, and should a real emergency come up and they call the whole dept in to handle the situation that is the only time i would ever consider using.

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  • SinePari
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    Whoever wants blue lights/sirens on their POV hasn't found all of the porn sites on the internet yet

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