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  • #46
    Originally posted by powertoburn
    My suggestion is to give a call to the agency and leave a voicemail in personal mailbox with a dedicated email address for validating accounts.

    My work email is not tied to my department but to city website.
    Not every department has voice mail for their officers. And I'm not sure I'm ready to make potentially 13,000 phone calls.
    Tim Dees, now writing as a plain old forum member, his superpowers lost to an encounter with gold kryptonite.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Tim Dees
      Not every department has voice mail for their officers. And I'm not sure I'm ready to make potentially 13,000 phone calls.
      Tim, I do verifications for another site. PM me for details if you would like.....
      Ours is employment based with several verified members making the calls. It has worked out good for us now that we have a system down.

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      • #48
        Tim,

        I'm a moderator of a couple other forums. One forum we allowed verified access for sworn LEOs. Began and continue to confirm sworn status for entry into the secure forum. All the moderators and administrators, myself included, thought that this would be the next big thing for the board. Even thought that perhaps the whole site would go to this secure board.

        In the end, the secured forum is hardly used at all. Rest of the forum has had tremendous growth. Still a couple posts here and there, but still remarkable that we did not have the type of outpouring that we were expecting.

        Just for info.

        K9

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        • #49
          Originally posted by K9 Police
          In the end, the secured forum is hardly used at all. Rest of the forum has had tremendous growth. Still a couple posts here and there, but still remarkable that we did not have the type of outpouring that we were expecting.
          No offense....but you must not be marketing your board the right way. The place that I am at, we have a very, very strong national and international following of LEOs that use that side of the board and it continues to grow daily. I recieve at least 2-3 emails daily from folks that want verified....and are willing to give me information that I desire to get them verified.

          Not trying to irrate anyone, but when I see folks arguing about the pros/cons of verification.....the ones arguing against it are the ones I fear are not LEOs. We get folks that claim they are LEOs over there all the time....but pull the "I don't want to get verified because......" 9 out of 10 times, they are full of it, and are posers.

          Not saying that is the case here.....but I tend to believe that if someone doesn't want to get verified, they are not a true LEO.

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          • #50
            There are poor counties and towns that never do POST Cert. their deputies, constables, etc.. They retire at 20 that way.
            It is a tempest in a tea cup.
            I have never seen anything sensitive here anyway. Or on the other forum, for that matter. Don`t poke the bear. A rural cop has more differences with NYPD or LAPD than a citizen would.
            Most LEO`s around here are civilians these days.
            Probabaly, most of the members are, truth be told.
            I am Army and, as with all Armed Forces am on a list and subject to UCMJ upon recall. The only out is death or dishonorable discharge. Recent events surprised a lot of folks who had done their time and had not read Title 10, USC.
            As usual, I am behind in my paper work and should not even be engaging in this frolic.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Tim Dees
              That is an efficient way to go, so long as you only have a few calls a day to make. We potentially have over 16,000 calls to make if everyone requested secure access (granted, we know that some forum members aren't cops, but you get the idea). We would also need to actually look up the number of the law enforcement agency for each pass, in case the applicant was spoofing us. Then you have the problem with large agencies that I referenced in my original post.
              Ask them for direct # to agency (that goes through dispatcher), time when they are at work and shift. This way, when you call dispatcher can route your call to them instead of someone giving their cell # etc.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by PPDMO373
                No offense....but you must not be marketing your board the right way. The place that I am at, we have a very, very strong national and international following of LEOs that use that side of the board and it continues to grow daily. I recieve at least 2-3 emails daily from folks that want verified....and are willing to give me information that I desire to get them verified.

                Not trying to irrate anyone, but when I see folks arguing about the pros/cons of verification.....the ones arguing against it are the ones I fear are not LEOs. We get folks that claim they are LEOs over there all the time....but pull the "I don't want to get verified because......" 9 out of 10 times, they are full of it, and are posers.

                Not saying that is the case here.....but I tend to believe that if someone doesn't want to get verified, they are not a true LEO.
                Instead of a lengthy reply and attempts to show examples, I just will say that I disagree with your entire post.

                K9

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by K9 Police
                  Instead of a lengthy reply and attempts to show examples, I just will say that I disagree with your entire post.

                  K9
                  Why is that....?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by PPDMO373

                    Not trying to irrate anyone, but when I see folks arguing about the pros/cons of verification.....the ones arguing against it are the ones I fear are not LEOs. We get folks that claim they are LEOs over there all the time....but pull the "I don't want to get verified because......" 9 out of 10 times, they are full of it, and are posers.

                    Not saying that is the case here.....but I tend to believe that if someone doesn't want to get verified, they are not a true LEO.
                    Personally I don't want to get verified and I have no intention of changing my SN either.

                    On another site one of the admins gave a completely false response to a question. Not only was it off, but it was the exact opposite to the truth. Now, none of the other "Verified LEO" knew any better and started saying, "yeah, what he said"... Not being verified, I can't (or didn't really care to), respond and tell the admin that he was incorrect and he had bad information... This is not sn isolated occurence!

                    On an Ask a Cop section you will have some sworn LEO, who may have attended a 14 week non resisdential academy, from some Village in Boise Idaho replying to what the academy is like for the NYSP!!!
                    Can you say DYNASTY? Go Patriots!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by wannabeenytrp
                      Personally I don't want to get verified and I have no intention of changing my SN either.

                      On another site one of the admins gave a completely false response to a question. Not only was it off, but it was the exact opposite to the truth. Now, none of the other "Verified LEO" knew any better and started saying, "yeah, what he said"... Not being verified, I can't (or didn't really care to), respond and tell the admin that he was incorrect and he had bad information... This is not sn isolated occurence!

                      On an Ask a Cop section you will have some sworn LEO, who may have attended a 14 week non resisdential academy, from some Village in Boise Idaho replying to what the academy is like for the NYSP!!!
                      Actually, Boise PD and Ada Co. are one of the few can afford to POST Cert. It costs money.

                      This reminds me of DA autos. Brilliant soulutions to a problem that does not exist.

                      I do own a few.

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                      • #56
                        I have just dont post anything on any website that I am not comfortable about outsiders seeing.

                        If I feel the need to discuss something confidential I can email that person directly and make my own checks.

                        Trying to validate police officers from all over the world could be one hell of a job.

                        Regards

                        Dave

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                        • #57
                          I have mixxed feelings about Verified LEO's having exclusivity into only certain areas of a board.

                          Having submitted for verification on another board, it is frustrating awaiting the verification to be complete when it takes weeks (or even months) on end, even though I have no idea how they will verify a retired person who has been off of the job for long enough that the Temp who answers the phone in Human Resources has no record. Outside of being verified, the "applicant" is denied the use of areas in which their primary interests lie... answering questions from civilians, in my case, or joking around or sharing life lessons with people who are still on the job in the area where "On the Job" is loosely interpreted. This creates what I have heard termed "Class Envy", since the otherwise equal member is subjected to second class treatment. Presently, I can't see how having one verified could give anyone more or less credibility, since we seem to sniff out the BS artists and even the occasional Socialist/Leftist Nutjob in Uniform fairly well already.

                          If or when I ever receive my "verified" status, I may feel differently about it, but I doubt I will.
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                          • #58
                            In the NYPD we have an employment verification unit. Most banks, credit card companies, colleges call this number and/or send written requests for verification of employment. Someone in each dept is responsible for handling these requests, large or small it is not out of the norm. It will not endanger giving out copies of any ones ID's or certificates. Once a personnel contact in each agency is made, it makes it a lot easier to confirm employment and status in each agency. You wouldn't want to grant secure access to an administrative person who is not law enforcement solely because they work at a particular agency.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by ICE-MAN
                              Okay I have a solution quick and easy and it can truly verify people if they are LEO or not. Have some type of application process that O.com mails you a password to your department. In my department we each have our own mail boxes.
                              16,000 stamps ???
                              Charlie 31, HPPD

                              "Evil is a fact not to be explained away, but to be accepted; and accepted not to be endured, but to be conquered. It is a challenge neither to our reason nor to our patience, but to our courage."

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by PPDMO373
                                No offense....but you must not be marketing your board the right way. The place that I am at, we have a very, very strong national and international following of LEOs that use that side of the board and it continues to grow daily. I recieve at least 2-3 emails daily from folks that want verified....and are willing to give me information that I desire to get them verified.

                                Not trying to irrate anyone, but when I see folks arguing about the pros/cons of verification.....the ones arguing against it are the ones I fear are not LEOs. We get folks that claim they are LEOs over there all the time....but pull the "I don't want to get verified because......" 9 out of 10 times, they are full of it, and are posers.

                                Not saying that is the case here.....but I tend to believe that if someone doesn't want to get verified, they are not a true LEO.
                                Disagree...
                                Charlie 31, HPPD

                                "Evil is a fact not to be explained away, but to be accepted; and accepted not to be endured, but to be conquered. It is a challenge neither to our reason nor to our patience, but to our courage."

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