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  • Stan Switek
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    The Presidential Succession Law of 1947 addressed the simultaneous disability of both the president and vice president. Under this law, here are the offices and current office holders who would become president should both the president and vice president be disabled. Remember, to assume the presidency, a person must also meet all the legal requirements to serve as president.

    # Vice President Dick Cheney

    # House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill.

    # Senate President Pro Tem Ted Stevens, R-Alaska

    # Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice

    # Treasury Secretary John Snow

    # Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld

    # Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

    # Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff

    # Interior Secretary Gale A. Norton

    # Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns

    # Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez

    # Labor Secretary Elaine Chao

    # Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt

    # Housing and Urban Development Secretary Alphonso Jackson

    # Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta

    # Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman

    # Education Secretary Margaret Spellings

    # Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson

    The Constitution, however, requires that the president be a natural-born citizen, so Gutierrez, born in Cuba, and Chao, born in Taiwan, would be ineligible.

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  • dvsmnstr
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    That's my problem, I am not sure.. they told us "write down the chain of command from the president> vice president > down to your dept and you" not to clear thats why I asked for some of your opionons so I can get a big selection and add in as many as I could. The list that BS_CJ listed is what I was looking for. Thanks guys

    Originally posted by retired

    So, what chain-of-command do you want?

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  • retired
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    Originally posted by dvsmnstr
    A few of you seemed to miss the fact that they told us to start at the pres and go down. I'm just doing as I was instructed.
    I understand that and didn't miss it. But the President is only in the federal chain of command. If you are talking about succession for the office of POTUS that is different. If you're refering to the POTUS as the Commander-in-Chief that is another chain-of-command.

    So, what chain-of-command do you want?

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  • mosetti
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    Assuming you work for a local agency, your chain of command from the President would be:

    The President
    The Governor
    The Mayor / Sheriff
    Police Commisioner / Chief of Police / Undersheriff
    Station Commander
    Section Commander
    Shift Commander

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  • dvsmnstr
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    A few of you seemed to miss the fact that they told us to start at the pres and go down. I'm just doing as I was instructed.

    Originally posted by retired
    Chain of command for what? The President isn't in the chain of command for my department anymore then the Secretary of Defense is.

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  • retired
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    Originally posted by dvsmnstr
    Hey guys, for my training class I have to write down the chain of command starting at the president then going down. here is what I came up with anyone have any missing spot's because I know there are a few more.

    President
    Pice President
    attorney general
    county prosecutor
    county sheriff
    municipal govering body
    police chief
    capt
    lt
    sgt
    then my academy guys.

    thanks for any help
    Chain of command for what? The President isn't in the chain of command for my department anymore then the Secretary of Defense is.

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  • dvsmnstr
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    Thank you BS_CJ, that is what I was looking for but could not find it on the web, I only have 1 hour in between my full time job ending and having to be at the academy. Add in getting dressed and shave and shower and I have little time for homework due the next day. The class is 9 months tues/wed/thurs from 6:00 to 11:00/11:30.

    thanks again guys.

    Originally posted by BS_CJ
    My guess would be:

    President
    Vice President
    Attorney General
    Governor
    Lt. Governor
    State Attorney General
    __________________ then depending on who you work for

    State Patrol
    Commander
    LT Commander
    Capt
    LT
    SGT

    Sheriff
    Undersheriff
    Capt
    LT
    SGT

    Mayor
    Chief
    Capt
    LT
    SGT


    are you at a agency specific academy?

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  • BS_CJ
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    Originally posted by mosetti
    but the Vice President is not in any chain of command.

    Nevermind

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  • mosetti
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    I don't know about the Lt. Governor, but the Vice President is not in any chain of command. His constitutional authority is only to assume the office of the President in the event of the President's death and to serve as the President of the Senate. He does not fall into any Chain of Command. I would assume the same would go for the Lt. Governor, but you would have to refer to your states constitution.

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  • Stan Switek
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    Originally posted by BS_CJ
    If the president/VP were to die then I think you would be correct...but I'm not entirely sure the Sec. of Agriculture is in the chain of command
    Correct. However, there is a chain of command that involves most of the cabinet.

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  • BS_CJ
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    Originally posted by Stan Switek
    I'd think you would have to include the presidents entire cabinet.

    If the president/VP were to die then I think you would be correct...but I'm not entirely sure the Sec. of Agriculture is in the chain of command

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  • Stan Switek
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    I'd think you would have to include the presidents entire cabinet.

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  • BS_CJ
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    My guess would be:

    President
    Vice President
    Attorney General
    Governor
    Lt. Governor
    State Attorney General
    __________________ then depending on who you work for

    State Patrol
    Commander
    LT Commander
    Capt
    LT
    SGT

    Sheriff
    Undersheriff
    Capt
    LT
    SGT

    Mayor
    Chief
    Capt
    LT
    SGT


    are you at a agency specific academy?

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  • dvsmnstr
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    they told us to start with the pres though, and go down.. as you guys know there not very specific.

    Originally posted by PABear31
    Actually for any office to be included in a police officer's chain of command it has have to have the authority to issue a lawful order to that officer. Federal offices such as the president have no such authority over state and municipal police officers. Sheriff's Deputies chain of command starts with the Sheriff, state law enforcement officers' start with the governor and municipal officers start with the chief executive officer of the municipality. Only federal law enforcement officers employed by agencies of the executive branch start with the president.
    As a state trooper mine is as follows
    Governor
    Commissioner (Col.)
    Area Commander (Maj.)
    Troop Commaning Officer (Capt.)
    Officer in charge (Sgt.)
    Unit Supervisor (Cpl.)

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  • kcolg
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    as far as I remember the USAG is the head honcho.

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