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  • Disurbances at city council/town trustee meetings

    Disturbances NOT related to the police, BTW....

    Just got a call from my on-duty officer. Seems one of the local mmmmm "critics" was bad-mouthing the mayor. The mayor's husband overheard it and asked if he wanted to step outside and discuss it. The critic did. Fists flew and blood flowed. The critic wants a federal case and a media circus. Not going to happen.

    IMO, if you both invite and accept the invitation to step outside and discuss it, sounds like mutual combat to me and they can both go to county (not muni) court to face disturbance charges. Not going to declare a winner, not going to make anyone a victim because they lost, not going to make anyone the lone arrestee because they won.

    We are talking about two men in their 60's!

    So, what's happened in your city or town over anything not dealing with the police????
    "You're never fully dressed without a smile."

    Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

    Three things I know for sure: (1) No bad deed goes unrewarded, (2) No good deed goes unpunished, and (3) It is entirely possible to push the most devoted, loyal and caring person beyond the point where they no longer give a 5h!t.

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    Fighting by agreement Tuff nuggets you both a date with the judge.
    The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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    • #3
      A couple months ago I had one very similar to yours. In a town of just under 4,000 people, a councilman apparently took offense of a comment made by the volunteer fire chief during the town meeting. Words were exchanged, and the councilman then "violently threatened the chief with a club" according to Mrs. Chief, who was also the provocateur of the whole situation. While interviewing the councilman, an 87 year old retired doctor, I determined that he did indeed threaten the much younger chief with a club. After closer inspection of the weapon, I determined it to be his walking cane. And to make matters worse, the octogenarian made no bones about it, asking me to give a written statement attesting to the fact if he were 40 years younger he would have "taught him a lesson".

      Thankfully I was able to smooth it over, and not arrest anyone.
      I make my living on Irish welfare.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by reils49 View Post
        a couple months ago i had one very similar to yours. In a town of just under 4,000 people, a councilman apparently took offense of a comment made by the volunteer fire chief during the town meeting. Words were exchanged, and the councilman then "violently threatened the chief with a club" according to mrs. Chief, who was also the provocateur of the whole situation. While interviewing the councilman, an 87 year old retired doctor, i determined that he did indeed threaten the much younger chief with a club. After closer inspection of the weapon, i determined it to be his walking cane. And to make matters worse, the octogenarian made no bones about it, asking me to give a written statement attesting to the fact if he were 40 years younger he would have "taught him a lesson".

        Thankfully i was able to smooth it over, and not arrest anyone.
        lol!
        "You're never fully dressed without a smile."

        Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

        Three things I know for sure: (1) No bad deed goes unrewarded, (2) No good deed goes unpunished, and (3) It is entirely possible to push the most devoted, loyal and caring person beyond the point where they no longer give a 5h!t.

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        • #5
          Many years ago, when the 1st black mayor in Chicago was elected, the "Council Wars" was going in full swing (balance of power between the number of black vs white aldermen in the council), an alderwoman, with arrests for shoplifting and prostitution, pulled a gun during a city council meeting. Poor copper working the chambers probably had to give it back to her after the meeting.

          A small suburb outside Chicago fired it's approx. 15 man Police Dept. for being in the sack with dope dealers, brutality, shakedowns. At the village council meeting, they all showed up, dressed in their uniforms, guns, (no badges) and demanded their jobs back. Sheriff's Police and 10 surrounding suburb PD's had to grab them and cool off that mess.
          Last edited by ChiTownDet; 08-03-2012, 09:39 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kieth M. View Post
            We are talking about two men in their 60's!
            OLD MAN FIGHT!!!

            I miss you, Dave.
            http://www.odmp.org/officer/20669-of...david-s.-moore

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ChiTownDet View Post
              A small suburb outside Chicago fired it's approx. 15 man Police Dept. for being in the sack with dope dealers, brutality, shakedowns. At the village council meeting, they all showed up, dressed in their uniforms, guns, (no badges) and demanded their jobs back. Sheriff's Police and 10 surrounding suburb PD's had to grab them and cool off that mess.
              I clearly remember this; what a mess!!

              “This life’s hard, but it’s harder if you’re stupid.”

              George V. Higgins--The Friends of Eddie Coyle

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              • #8
                I remember a San Jose City Council meeting where one of the local crazies was speaking during the public comment portion. He had been antagonizing the mayor over the last couple of meetings and all day that day. He was reading a bible quote about feeding your enemy and then said "Mr. Mayor, I brought this cookie for you... " and presented a brown paper bag (with a cookie in it I guess) the Mayor was banging on his gavel and ordered security to escort the crazy guy out. The audience was laughing very hard at the situation.
                semper destravit

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                • #9
                  We have armed plain clothed Officers at our city counsel meetings for a reason. It's a freaking circus.

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                  • #10
                    I'm waiting for the day our mayor yells at the wrong person and gets a broken nose...

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                    • #11
                      Years back we had a state fairgrounds board meeting on a controversial subject. The crowd was so big that they had to move the meeting into one of the fair's larger exhibit buildings and call in CHP to ensure the crowd remained peaceful.

                      During the public comments section one nut job took the microphone and droned on endlessly, repeating, "Just do the math, just do the math."

                      Seated up at the dais taking all this in was one of the Fair Board members, a little old black woman. She was also a retired Navy Captain who didn't tolerate nonsense from anyone. Out of great respect, everyone who knew the woman called her Miss Emily. In Miss Emily's hand was an empty Diet Coke can she had just finished emptying to quench her thirst.

                      When Miss Emily had her fill of "Just do the math," she didn't say a word. Instead, she expressed her displeasure by crushing the empty Coke can in her bare hand. The sound of crumpling aluminum echoed throughout the exhibit hall. The crowd fell silent. They were stunned that this sweet old woman had delivered the most direct and intense message possible without saying a word.

                      Dumbfounded, Mr. Just Do the Math stopped dead in his tracks as well (clearly she scared the crap out of him). He paused and in a meek voice said, "Well, I believe I have used up all of my speaking time," and left the microphone.

                      CHP was no longer needed to keep the peace. As long as there were empty Coke cans nearby, Miss Emily had things in hand (both literally and figuratively) for the rest of the night.
                      Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by reils49 View Post
                        A couple months ago I had one very similar to yours. In a town of just under 4,000 people, a councilman apparently took offense of a comment made by the volunteer fire chief during the town meeting. Words were exchanged, and the councilman then "violently threatened the chief with a club" according to Mrs. Chief, who was also the provocateur of the whole situation. While interviewing the councilman, an 87 year old retired doctor, I determined that he did indeed threaten the much younger chief with a club. After closer inspection of the weapon, I determined it to be his walking cane. And to make matters worse, the octogenarian made no bones about it, asking me to give a written statement attesting to the fact if he were 40 years younger he would have "taught him a lesson".

                        Thankfully I was able to smooth it over, and not arrest anyone.
                        Reminds me of what my grandfather once said: "Im too old to fist-fight, I'll just shoot a son of a b!tch!"
                        Ask them, Tell them, Make them.

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