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    Got to thinking about this while reading "Door Check Business Cards" thread. How many of you all still do business checks whether on foot or by other means on a regular basis. Our new supervisor is very big on property checks and that's what you are expected to be doing after midnight, NOT stopping cars lol. I know a lot of agencies have gotten away from this but apparently some still do it. I have to say that since I've started doing this on a regular basis I have found some interesting stuff.

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    When I was on nights, I used to check businesses, but never found anything open. Vehicle contacts were MUCH more productive, but that could be because of the area.
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    • #3
      We havent done these types of checks in at least 23 years (when I started), and it very likely goes back decades further.....we simply dont have the time or the resources to do so.

      We will do targeted 'patrol checks' for a limited amount of time if a business owner requests them.....but, those are also done only if a patrol unit happens to be free and swings by that location.
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      • #4
        The only time I have ever heard or seen them done was by Barney on the Andy Griffith show. Hunting for bad guys is much more productive. But any good foot patrol will result in some thing. Police cars are almost worthless at night except for car stops.

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        • #5
          Do you work for my agency? :-) Basically on midnights, its all we do, generally. We make traffic stops if there is traffic around but generally its driving around the strip malls and stuff all night long. Most of us add in some neighborhood patrols in the nicer weather knowing the kids are out stealing sht from unlocked cars or property vandalism but mostly business checks
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          • #6
            Yep, lots and lots of property checks and a sgt that checks daily activity log to make sure. However, in over 10 years, have never found one in progress. However, in the same amount of years, I have solved numerous B&Es by making traffic stops of vehicles out taking other people's crap. I also average about one DUI every two night shifts. Seems to me, that more is accomplished with traffic stops than door to door, business checks. I believe that cops should drive around businesses looking for what doesn't look right, but rattling doors isn't very productive and from a safety standpoint, if I find one that is active, I don't have the element of surprise and I'm by myself.
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            • #7
              Gee, I guess I was always the lucky one who created about two or three "unsecured premise" calls a night when I was doing building checks. Sigh. Kind of why I quit doing it... Nothing like the fast food place that's already been burgled once that leaves the drive thru window unlocked. Which I then get to crawl through.

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              • #8
                Yeah, I do most of mine by vehicle and shining the lights in the doors and windows, but will get out on foot and check the ones in the downtown area, since thats where our crackheads stay. I have found some good stuff by doing these patrols but could probably find even more running traffic. I talk to a lot of guys that dont do these regularly though. Interesting to see how different our departments are.

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                • #9
                  We had this one school out in the middle of nowhere (brand new at the time) that if you were bored you could go to and pull doors. You were guaranteed to find an open/unlocked door somewhere at that school, especially if you gave one a pretty good yank.
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                  • #10
                    Never do them on foot. To be honest, I generally feel like if you don't lock your doors, its on you.
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                    • #11
                      I think it all depends on where you work. There are many evenings where I will see about 10-15 cars total from 2am-5am. To keep myself sane (and awake), I will do business checks. Most of the time it involves driving through the parking lot and illuminating the door so I can see the deadbolt. In warmer weather I get my butt out of the squad and pull doors in the downtown area.

                      If there is a certain crime trend occurring like theft of scrap metal or thefts from storage lockers, I'll focus on that much more than traffic enforcement.
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                      • #12
                        Business checks, meaning getting out of the car and pulling on doors........almost never. Call load often prevents that. Every once in a blue moon in between other things.

                        Mainly lighting up stuff from the car, looking for doors ajar, broken windows, activity in alleys behind or adjacent to businesses, etc. But in general, no, we don't do a lot of hands on type business checks.

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                        • #13
                          When I was on patrol, I did them all the time. Traffic usually dried up around 3 am and I'd get extra tired. When that happened, I'd park in one on the several towns in my patrol area and go for a stroll through town. I'd find open doors all the time and even caught a couple (2) in-progress in about 15 years. For me, it was more about getting out of the car and getting a little fresh air.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SRT936 View Post
                            . For me, it was more about getting out of the car and getting a little fresh air.
                            +1 Nothing like the 0dark 30 stroll to keep the eyes open.
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                            • #15
                              They're a good community perception tool... I don't subscribe to the theory some supervisors have of making it a primary duty on night shift. I think an officer is much more effective creeping through the neighborhoods and making contacts, whether it's someone on foot or in a vehicle.

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