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  • #16
    Originally posted by ryker View Post

    What killed me is our 2/3 3/2 days on days off. What in the sam-hell am I going to do for three days off in rural county? Nice wife in bed and I'm watching tv or come saturday and I sleep a few hrs in the car as we drive somewhere... If I go back to nights I will get a second job and just work 7 days a week.
    I am about 1 month in to what will be a 3 month nights rotation, currently working 2300-0700 5 days a week, but in mid-April going to 1800-0600 (we are going to 12's and I got 'lucky' enough to be on nights then, too). I have seriously thought of the 2nd job thing since I am also in a pretty small area with nothing going on, or becoming a reserve at another dept so I can be around other day sleepers.
    Originally posted by Ceridwen
    Just one would be stingy of me, I'd have to get two. For the children.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by SRT936 View Post
      Vitamin D. Seriously. Most night shift guys has a very serious deficiency in Vitamin D that leads to all of the symptoms you've described. Start taking 1000 units twice a day and I'll bet you'll start feeling better in a couple weeks.
      Are you serious?

      I work nights (7P-7A), and feel like @$$ all the time. I just figured thats the way nights was: you feel like $*** until you can work a different schedule.
      Last edited by reils49; 03-27-2011, 08:10 PM.
      I make my living on Irish welfare.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by reils49 View Post
        Are you serious?
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        100%.

        Vitamin D deficiency results in lethargy, apathy, and general malaise. In more serious cases, it can cause tremors, joint pain, and cognitive dysfunction. A simple blood test will tell you your levels. A normal reading is between 30 and 75 ng/ml. The average night shift worker runs between 10 to 12 ng/ml. When I had all the above symptoms, my test came back as a 6.

        Everything else mentioned in this thread is just as important, but Vitamin D deficiency is an often overlooked cause of many of the symptoms of night shift workers.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by reils49 View Post
          Are you serious?

          I work nights (7P-7A), and feel like @$$ all the time. I just figured thats the way nights was: you feel like $*** until you can work a different schedule.
          While they are serious.......................as long as you work nights you will feel like crap. I did almost 13 yrs straight of roughly 9 pm to 5 am! I have been retired now 5 months and am finally feeling like I have caught up on my sleep.

          During that time I tried almost every sleep pattern under the sun--------------all of them worked for a short time----then life caught up with me and I started feeling like crap again. Night-shift is just not good for your body.
          Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

          My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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          • #20
            I'm going to try the vitamin D thing. I've been on nights for just over a year and at first it was fine, now I'm always tired. We work a 7P-7A; 2 on, 2 off, 3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off. I keep a sleep routine that works for me, albeit its too complicated for me to post here. I'm usually fine as long as I keep to the routine, but morning/afternoon court screws me up, or having a random day shift thrown into the mix for training. In those cases it might take me anywhere from a day to almost a week to get back on track.
            I make my living on Irish welfare.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by reils49 View Post
              I'm going to try the vitamin D thing. I've been on nights for just over a year and at first it was fine, now I'm always tired. We work a 7P-7A; 2 on, 2 off, 3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off. I keep a sleep routine that works for me, albeit its too complicated for me to post here. I'm usually fine as long as I keep to the routine, but morning/afternoon court screws me up, or having a random day shift thrown into the mix for training. In those cases it might take me anywhere from a day to almost a week to get back on track.
              Yep sounds familiar................also Melatonin to help you sleep a bit deeper.
              Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

              My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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              • #22
                OP, What is the reason your department feels it is nessacery to make you guys rotate from days to nights so often? It takes a huge toll on the body. I can garauntee you the only reason they do it now is "That's how it's always been done." without any scientific or statistical data to show that it benefits the dept, the officer, or the city in any way.
                Originally Posted by VegasMetro
                maybe it’s me but I think a six pack and midget porn makes for good times?????

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by reils49 View Post
                  I'm going to try the vitamin D thing. I've been on nights for just over a year and at first it was fine, now I'm always tired. We work a 7P-7A; 2 on, 2 off, 3 on, 2 off, 2 on, 3 off. I keep a sleep routine that works for me, albeit its too complicated for me to post here. I'm usually fine as long as I keep to the routine, but morning/afternoon court screws me up, or having a random day shift thrown into the mix for training. In those cases it might take me anywhere from a day to almost a week to get back on track.
                  Let us know if it works. I'd like to know.

                  I worked a stint of 12 years of the MNP, and, for the most part, felt great all the time. We had a much better schedule. Ours was Sun-Thu night, 11pm-7am, every weekend off. We did all of our court on OT. It was that way for a long time, then a new CO decided that it was not "fair", so he took and made everyone work the MNP in all sorts of different shifts. I transferred out. At the new station, I worked a few of their 4 days off then 3-11, 7-3, 11-7 into a 8 day MNP stretch. THAT SUCKED.

                  If they offer you a straight MNP schedule, it is much easier to get into a routine. Not so important to the guys with only 5 years on and under 35, but once you hit 35+ with more than 5 years on... things get harder to bounce back from. GROG
                  As far as "rights" are concerned; I look at them this way... I don't tell you what church to go to, and you don't tell me what kind of firearm I can own...

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                  • #24
                    Def take a look at your diet. start eating better. Also a little time off can do you great.

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                    • #25
                      Thanks guys. I don't know why we still go along with this schedule, but there is big resistance to change in our dept. I have started taking some supplements that i hope will work but we will have to see. I think I'm really just burned out with my dept. so much that I just cannot get motivated but it always seems to manifest itself on night shift.

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                      • #26
                        Super Vitamin B Complex right before starting the shift as well as at midpoint. In conjunction with the Vitamin D you should see a difference.
                        Sometimes, doing the right thing means p***ing off the bosses.

                        "And shepherds we shall be, for thee my lord for thee."

                        Originally posted by dontknowwhy
                        I still think troopers and deputies who work in the middle of no where with essentially no back up are the 'men among men' of the LEO world.
                        Originally posted by weinerdog2000
                        as far as your social experiment, if we cant film you then you cant film us, we will arrest you for obstruction of our freedom.

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                        • #27
                          Another suggestion: maybe it's time to get away from patrol for a while. I don't know anything about your department, but maybe you have the option of transferring to a specialized unit for a while (i.e. a detective bureau/Community Policing/whatever your department offers.)
                          The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming or on fire

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SRT936 View Post
                            Vitamin D. Seriously. Most night shift guys has a very serious deficiency in Vitamin D that leads to all of the symptoms you've described. Start taking 1000 units twice a day and I'll bet you'll start feeling better in a couple weeks.
                            I'm also going to try Vitamin D... just bought a bottle last night.
                            Look sharp, act sharp, be sharp.

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                            • #29
                              I'll get some Vitamin D also. Danny216, I will NEVER join our community policing unit lol but thanks for the thought.

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                              • #30
                                When I worked nights, our shift was 9pm to 7am. I would go to bed around 8-830am and I would sleep solid until 7-7:30pm. Sleep wasn't my issue, it was just trying to stay awake in general and keeping busy.

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