Tweet
Title doesn't do it justice, but was at a loss as to how to title this other than "anyone run into a wackjob like this, and how did you not lose your mind trying to deal with it??"
Last night my Sgt makes a traffic stop. What he saw was a car leave the downtown bar area with no headlights (score, right?), and he stopped the car. He asks for another unit, and and when I arrive, I see him at the driver's side of the vehicle with the door open, talking to the driver inside. As I walk up, I hear him informing the driver that he has a duty to identify himself. Driver says, in a low monotone, NOT combative, "Why should I identify myself? Why don't you identify yourself?" Sgt says, "Like I said, I'm Sgt So-n-so with 'City' Police Department." Sgt says something else that I don't catch because I'm scoping out guy. He's just sitting there, belted in, with his hands in his lap. Sgt asks him if he's diabetic, and the guy says, "Why should I be diabetic? Do I look diabetic?" I say, "Anyone can be diabetic man, we're just checking." Driver says again, looking at my Sgt, "Why won't you identify yourself?" Sgt points at his jumpsuit, which has his name in bright white thread an inch high and says, "I'm Sgt So-n-so and this is Officer Jenners." Driver said some mumbly-jumbly thing about identifying our authority or something, and by then we had it. Sgt reaches in and unsnaps the belt and grabs his left hand, saying "Get out of the car." Driver says, "Why should I get out of the car?" I get between my Sgt and the car door, grab his right arm and we yoink him out of the car and onto the ground. No resistence to anything, he just goes flop.
While searching him, I found a guitar pick. I'm a chatter, so I ask "You play the guitar?" Guy says, "Why should I play the guitar? Should I play the guitar?"
Back at the PD, Sgt tries to get him through the DUI process with refusals. He wouldn't sign anywhere saying his rights had been read. In fact, my Sgt quoted him as saying "Why should I sign there? I'll sign there for one million dollars prepaid in advance." Also continued to refuse to do anything, including cooperate to get booked. He stated we were taking his "personal property" because "my finger prints and picture are my personal property." He was told by the Sgt that if he would just say yes or no one whether or not he'd cooperate to get booked, he could leave, but if he didn't he'd stay until Monday to see the judge. Guy continued to insist we hadn't identified ourselves and we needed to show him our authority. He then said, "I conditionally accept your offer as long as you put in writing that I am not under contract to you." What??
Anyways, he stayed, but I'm curious where he got this stuff. We called some numbers for him to make sure he wasn't mental, and got his brother-in-law. BIL said the guy read stuff online about "sovereignty" and thought he could talk his way out of anything.
Anyone run into this? Know what Web sites this guy might have looked at?
Last night my Sgt makes a traffic stop. What he saw was a car leave the downtown bar area with no headlights (score, right?), and he stopped the car. He asks for another unit, and and when I arrive, I see him at the driver's side of the vehicle with the door open, talking to the driver inside. As I walk up, I hear him informing the driver that he has a duty to identify himself. Driver says, in a low monotone, NOT combative, "Why should I identify myself? Why don't you identify yourself?" Sgt says, "Like I said, I'm Sgt So-n-so with 'City' Police Department." Sgt says something else that I don't catch because I'm scoping out guy. He's just sitting there, belted in, with his hands in his lap. Sgt asks him if he's diabetic, and the guy says, "Why should I be diabetic? Do I look diabetic?" I say, "Anyone can be diabetic man, we're just checking." Driver says again, looking at my Sgt, "Why won't you identify yourself?" Sgt points at his jumpsuit, which has his name in bright white thread an inch high and says, "I'm Sgt So-n-so and this is Officer Jenners." Driver said some mumbly-jumbly thing about identifying our authority or something, and by then we had it. Sgt reaches in and unsnaps the belt and grabs his left hand, saying "Get out of the car." Driver says, "Why should I get out of the car?" I get between my Sgt and the car door, grab his right arm and we yoink him out of the car and onto the ground. No resistence to anything, he just goes flop.
While searching him, I found a guitar pick. I'm a chatter, so I ask "You play the guitar?" Guy says, "Why should I play the guitar? Should I play the guitar?"
Back at the PD, Sgt tries to get him through the DUI process with refusals. He wouldn't sign anywhere saying his rights had been read. In fact, my Sgt quoted him as saying "Why should I sign there? I'll sign there for one million dollars prepaid in advance." Also continued to refuse to do anything, including cooperate to get booked. He stated we were taking his "personal property" because "my finger prints and picture are my personal property." He was told by the Sgt that if he would just say yes or no one whether or not he'd cooperate to get booked, he could leave, but if he didn't he'd stay until Monday to see the judge. Guy continued to insist we hadn't identified ourselves and we needed to show him our authority. He then said, "I conditionally accept your offer as long as you put in writing that I am not under contract to you." What??
Anyways, he stayed, but I'm curious where he got this stuff. We called some numbers for him to make sure he wasn't mental, and got his brother-in-law. BIL said the guy read stuff online about "sovereignty" and thought he could talk his way out of anything.
Anyone run into this? Know what Web sites this guy might have looked at?
Comment