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  • Comp Time Question

    How does your department handle comp. time? We get the time or the pay. The only problem is getting the time off when you want to use it. We get told at the end of each year we have to burn "our" earned time below a certain level, but when we ask for a day off we are told that we are shorthanded. Who isn't? We try to take a summer vacation and are told by our supervisor that he will give you Monday and Tuesday but you will have to come back from the beach for Wed. and Thurs., but you can go back to the beach Friday (I wish I was making that up!!). Do all departments have some kind of issues with comp. time?

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    It used to be that under FLSA, an employer was compelled to grant you comp time off when requested, provided you gave sufficient notice. If they had to pay OT to cover for you, it was their problem. All that changed a few years ago with several court decisions which are complicated to explain. Rather than repeat someone else's work, take a look at http://www.rlwlaw.com/pdfs/FLSA_Comp...pdate_4-05.pdf

    This was reinforced in a 2008 case that can be found at http://www.iupa.org/index.php?option...=179&Itemid=17

    I'm afraid you may be out of luck on this one.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by eah218 View Post
      How does your department handle comp. time? We get the time or the pay. The only problem is getting the time off when you want to use it. We get told at the end of each year we have to burn "our" earned time below a certain level, but when we ask for a day off we are told that we are shorthanded. Who isn't? We try to take a summer vacation and are told by our supervisor that he will give you Monday and Tuesday but you will have to come back from the beach for Wed. and Thurs., but you can go back to the beach Friday (I wish I was making that up!!). Do all departments have some kind of issues with comp. time?
      We have the simlar issues at our department. Were told once were at full staff things will get better. Will have to wait and see. Early this year I put in for comp time and even wrote it on my OT slip. A few months later I went to take the time off and I was told I would either have to trade with someone or take a no day of pay for the time. I asked what the deal was and told them about that day I had work for Comp. I was later told I was paid out for that day. You gotta keep track of your OT and work hours, because you never know what will happen.
      Some people were just dropped on their heads as children more than the rest of us!

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      • #4
        We get any day off we want as long as sufficient notice it given. They will fill the spot on OT! They do have the right to deny the request but rarely ever do.

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        • #5
          We can only 'bank' up to 480 hours of save time (comp time)....after that, it is paid whether it is marked 'saved' or not......

          They also have to pay you at whatever rank you are NOW when you get paid, not what you were when you banked the time.....makes for a nice check when you retire
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          • #6
            We can have up to 480 hours. As long as the comp is put in within 18 hours of my shift they can't deny it. We also have an overlap of 1 1/2 hours before and after the shift. For example I work 1500 to 0030 hours. Day shift works from 0700 to 1430. So if I want, I don't have to come in the first hour and a half. I can also leave at 2230 hours because mids start at that time. I work a 4 on 3 off which is nice to. Comp is the best thing I wouldn't want to work witout it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LA DEP View Post
              We can only 'bank' up to 480 hours of save time (comp time)....after that, it is paid whether it is marked 'saved' or not......

              They also have to pay you at whatever rank you are NOW when you get paid, not what you were when you banked the time.....makes for a nice check when you retire
              That would be cool...they pay us out every oct for comp time!

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              • #8
                The Dept from which I'm retired was pretty good about granting a Comp Time request. In fact, I personally preferred to use Comp, as the IRS hadn't yet figured out a way to tax time.(I'm certain they're working on it)On the rare occassion I requested pay, both the State and IRS got a peice of it. Just my .02 though.

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                • #9
                  at our retirement they pay out your 480 hours at whatever rank, they pay you for the 5 weeks vacation if you don't use it, and up to 90 sick days. not a bad deal unless they take it away before I go.

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                  • #10
                    Overtime is forbidden and we must comp out the time. We can't bank the comp time and must use it within the pay period. For the icing, we are not comped at time and a half. They call it a schedule adjustment and the comp hours are straight time....

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jebtcop View Post
                      Overtime is forbidden and we must comp out the time. We can't bank the comp time and must use it within the pay period. For the icing, we are not comped at time and a half. They call it a schedule adjustment and the comp hours are straight time....
                      That's complete garbage. Risk it all and get nothing in return. We can never get paid enough. I hope things change for you.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jsc0288 View Post
                        That's complete garbage. Risk it all and get nothing in return. We can never get paid enough. I hope things change for you.
                        Thanks...that's pretty much how I see it.

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                        • #13
                          we can bank up to 720 hours. We dont get holiday pay, instead we get one day a month of comp time no matter if u worked holiday or not. so its all good.

                          we can roll over comp time up to 720 hours. we get comp time off no matter what as long as we give 3 day notice, then its up to them to fill OT
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                          • #14
                            Tell them where to go with their comp time

                            If your agency wants to play hard ball over comp. time then you or your union (if you have one) can withdraw your consent (next time you negotiate) under FLSA to accept comp time. Comp time can only exist for public employees if the employee (or their representative) agrees to it.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KAA951 View Post
                              If your agency wants to play hard ball over comp. time then you or your union (if you have one) can withdraw your consent (next time you negotiate) under FLSA to accept comp time. Comp time can only exist for public employees if the employee (or their representative) agrees to it.
                              That would be for us, are Union (FOP) is still at an impasse. A contract would be great, the county doesn't want to give any. Will see what happens the contract expired in July.
                              Some people were just dropped on their heads as children more than the rest of us!

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