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  • Carrying firearm to and from work

    For those whose agency allows you to carry to and from work how do you carry? Do you carry open on your duty belt in uniform or do you conceal carry in uniform to and from work? The BOP starting Oct 1 to allow staff to carry to and from work but you have to secure your weapon in your vehicle in a lock box that is secure to your vehicle. We are covered under LEOSA but that is only for concealed carry. Other staff I talk to are going to carry open carry on there duty belt while in uniform to and from work. As for the BOP they have no policy on how we must carry.

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    Why would you conceal carry in your vehicle? Carry in a manner that allows you to draw and shoot the quickest and with the most accuracy. LEOSA overrides all but a few state carry laws. The BOP has no policy on how you must carry because once you leave the gate, you're not longer on duty. Don't mistake LEOSA with those agents (DEA, FBI, ATF, etc.) who have 24/7 carry authority.

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    • #3
      That's what I am saying why would anyone conceal carry In your vehicle . Even if you had to run in to a store somewhere on your way to or from work as long as you are not breaking any laws why do you need to conceal carry. I understand LEOSA and that we the BOP do not have 24/7 carry like other federal agencies. I am just curious how others you work in corrections carry to and from work.

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      • #4
        So you are going to be in uniform, with duty gear on, in your POV, off duty, and you don't see the issue..?

        Put a cover jacket on, carry IWB, and go home.
        Now go home and get your shine box!

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        • #5
          Billy Batts is right. Here in MD COs can carry (while off duty) with a permit. When I worked at the jail I always conceal carry. Leave that stuff for those that get paid to be out in the streets. Don't get jammed up or make yourself a target.
          Last edited by 1RidgeRunner7; 09-24-2018, 09:15 AM.

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          • #6
            Yes I am going to be in my POV in uniform on my way to and from work only so why would this be a issue . I have seen many who work in corrections in uniform carrying a firearm on there duty belt to and from work so I don't see the issue with it as long as you follow your policy and law.

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            • #7
              If you can’t understand WHY this is the dumbest move ever...I can’t help you. Change your name to Target. You are one and will be pulled into stupid things. Make sure you have a will and that you have good insurance.
              Now go home and get your shine box!

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              • #8
                The BOP staff that want to play LEO and have a holster on their duty belt are going to cause yet another asinine rule. LEOSA is for off duty and concealed. Wearing it open on a belt in uniform at Walmart gives the impression you are somehow performing some type of LE duty which your not. As CCCSD stated. See the issue?. But hey do what your career can handle! Because unless a shooting incident involves an ex in mates 99.9% chance your on your own for any legal implications.

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                • #9
                  And this is why corrections guys tend to be the laughing stock of law enforcement. Why if you ARE NOT ON DUTY would you want to be wearing your uniform. It doesn't matter if you have a cover shirt on. Folks can still see your pants and figure out your corrections. CONCEALED CARRY is just that CONCEALED is just that hidden from view don't ask don't tell.
                  I'd rather be judged by 12 rather carried by 6.

                  It should be noted that any and all post that are made are based on my own thought and opinions. And are not related or implied to represent the department I work for.

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                  • J2H
                    J2H commented
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                    I only wear my uniform (sans equipment) to and from work and for training...

                  • dvon714
                    dvon714 commented
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                    While police officers are lucky enough to be spoiled with locker rooms among other luxuries that the tax payers give you, COs are last when it comes to budgets. The dept I worked for had a locker room with 50 lockers for 300 plus COs. Those of us that did not get a locker wore our BDU pants to work. Everyone in town knows that green BDU pants were either Vegas PD or Corrections. I wasnt going to let someone elses grudge against me prevent me from stopping to pick up food for work and I refused to go unarmed. Theres nothing wrong with that. I can pull a 100 youtube videos of police officers being just as retarded so lets drop the holier than thou attitude.

                • #10
                  Originally posted by moparfan View Post
                  And this is why corrections guys tend to be the laughing stock of law enforcement...
                  And, I don't see corrections as part of law enforcement. I see corrections as, well, corrections.

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                  • dvon714
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                    Typical jerk off cop thinking he's above everyone else.

                • #11
                  If you have to ask how to carry a weapon in your car on the the way to work to immediately lock it up you probably should leave it at home.

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by Jim1648 View Post

                    And, I don't see corrections as part of law enforcement. I see corrections as, well, corrections.
                    You can say that about most corrections not all, my agency does allot of law enforcement duties .
                    55.......

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                    • Mhefner5
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                      What law enforcement duties? Just curious?

                    • KJB
                      KJB commented
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                      I have fought combative inmates, placed them in cuffs, escorted them to segregation, and written detention orders. I conduct searches, write inmates up for prohibited acts" which can get referred to prosecution, conduct investigations, and a bunch of similar things that non correctional LE does. The biggest difference in corrections is that we know everyone we deal with inside is a criminal, but that's not true on the outside.

                  • #13
                    Originally posted by Jim1648 View Post

                    And, I don't see corrections as part of law enforcement. I see corrections as, well, corrections.
                    Just respectfully talking but being this thread is geard to BOP specifically let me add BOP is a Federal LE agency. Though a different mission. Staff have Statutory Powers of arrest and ate uunder the Fed LE retirement with LEO marked credentials . Every agencies have their dummies and knuckleheads

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                    • #14
                      BOP is a CAREER and it’s technically law Enforcement. How many people have you BOP officers “arrested” in real life?

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                      • #15
                        Originally posted by Mhefner5 View Post
                        If you have to ask how to carry a weapon in your car on the the way to work to immediately lock it up you probably should leave it at home.
                        While I wouldn't disagree with you the issue is although BOP has been covered by LEOSA since the original 2004/5 passage BOP Staff were in violation of agency rulesrand could face disciipline if they had personal firearms on institutuon grounds. With a murder of a staff member leaving work a few years ago by elements related to inmates at that particular prison the push was enough to get it passed. But as usual BOP made it a requirement to have a lock box due to most institutuon have minimum security inmates doing maintenance around the outside and etc. Not to mention they often share parking lot spaces with inmate families on visiting days. Bit my rule but just they way it it.

                        The policy is so new there is zero guidance from the administration. I'm sure it will be forthcoming but what do they say.... snails pace

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