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  • cimcop1
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    I'll stick with the state CDC.

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  • moonman100
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    I was just issued uniforms and gear for a new C/O position I am starting next week. I asked the supply clerk where I could buy a wallet badge. He told me that dept policy strictly forbid having a second badge or flashing your badge for personal gain ( getting out of traffic tickets) And that I would be attending an ethics class regarding the same. At my present job the Warden told everyone to get a second badge so they could identify themselves as officers if they needed to.

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  • jeffIL
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    Thank you for at least typing like a normal peson. Unfortunately, I just read this thread and I really don't have the time or the interest in pursuing your life story or percieved grievances with the State of Georgia. I asked a question of you because the small part you posted here seemed a little suspect. If you don't want to answer...oh well!

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  • pateshane
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    Ok you asked for it , maybe you should pay attention to what you are reading instead of worrying about how some is typing. Until you learn to research a topic before speaking or responding to it. View my profile and read all of my threads at that point you will know what happened to me. Until you do that please refrain from posting anything about me.

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  • jeffIL
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    Originally posted by pateshane
    Well Atlcop That Is A Matter You Will Have To Bring Up With The Many Sheriff Departments In Ga . As I Have Stated Before When I Was Hired By Gwinnett County S.O. I Was Hired As A Deputy Sheriff Not A Detention Officer . If A Department Hires A Detention Officer The Department By State Law Only Has To Jailer Certify That Officer With In Six Months . However If A Department Hires You As Deputy Sheriff That Agency Has To Law Enforecement Certify You In 2 Years . Some People Are Confused Because In Ga Deputy Sheriffs And Detention Officers Both Work In The Jail , And If A Deputy Works In The Jail He Is Also Required To Be Jailer Certified As Well As Law Enforcement Mandated . The Reason Some Sheriff Departments Will Not Hire Detention Officers Is Because They Fill ,That Is Just A Warm Body Filling A Uniform And Their Is Little Room For Advancement . But If You Hire Deputy Sheriffs The Skys The Limit , Plenty Of Room To Advance And Plus A Step Up In Pay. I Will Give You A Example The Bibb County Sheriffs Office In Macon Ga Hires Deputy Sheriffs , Uncertified Deputies In Bibb County Are Firearmed Certified And Issued Take Home Weapons The Morale Of The Department Is Good Theese Deputies Will Eventualy Be Mandated , In The Meanwhile They Know That Their Department Has Trust In Its Deputies . On The Other Hand We Have Fulton County Sheriff Office That Department Hires For The Majority Detention Officers To Work In The Jail No Requirment To Law Enforcement Certify Them , no Real Advancement , Morale Is Low And If You Watch The News On A Constant Basis You Will See How This Affects That Department . Maybe The State Of Georgia Should Look To Its Neighbor To The South , Their Are No Jailers In Florida The Jails Are Run By State Post Certified Corrections Officers A Title One Can Be Proud Of And A Lot Of Room For Advancement . Ga Should Do Away With All Jailers, And Detention Officers And Have Certified Corrections Officers To Run The Jails But Thats Just My Opinion .
    I don't normally do this, but....jesus! What is the deal with your typing?? Try to type in clear sentences so people can understand what you are trying to say Also, I am a little confused...were you supposed to have the badge off duty or just in the prison when you were working and got wrongfully terminated?

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  • SeVere
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    Originally posted by SOLID BLUE
    I have no problem saying what my job is to any police officer out there. I'm a sworn Federal Correctional Officer with full arrest powers(Peace Officer) and when on duty I have Federal Jurisdiction as to what duty I may be doing. If I take a con on a cross country escort my status is maintained where ever I am. I don't understand this whole your not a LEO you work in jail philosphy? You can all the cops you want, without us they cannot do their job, you can have all the guards you want without them I cannot do my job. Most of my budddies on the police end will be the first to say they could not do my job. It's time that both sides respected each other a little more, we are all dealing with the same pieces of garbage out there. I'll say right now we have a lot of dibblees but we cannot seem to hide them as well as the police, because I know just as many dibblee cops as I do C/O's. Anyways,

    Take care All, C/O's and P/O's alike!
    I was a C.O. for several years before I became a LEO. I respect CO's I just find it funny that here in my area the situation I described happens regularly.

    Being a CO is a thankless job. We are all on the same side. The funny thing is that some CO's THINK we have a problem with them when there is none at all. The disrespect becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. They see slight in anything we do. If we ask what they do in the Sheriff's Office they get offended as it its some sort of slight to get them to admit that they work in the Jail. I consider it no different than someone asking me what I do on my department and where I work.

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  • SOLID BLUE
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    I have no problem saying what my job is to any police officer out there. I'm a sworn Federal Correctional Officer with full arrest powers(Peace Officer) and when on duty I have Federal Jurisdiction as to what duty I may be doing. If I take a con on a cross country escort my status is maintained where ever I am. I don't understand this whole your not a LEO you work in jail philosphy? You can all the cops you want, without us they cannot do their job, you can have all the guards you want without them I cannot do my job. Most of my budddies on the police end will be the first to say they could not do my job. It's time that both sides respected each other a little more, we are all dealing with the same pieces of garbage out there. I'll say right now we have a lot of dibblees but we cannot seem to hide them as well as the police, because I know just as many dibblee cops as I do C/O's. Anyways,

    Take care All, C/O's and P/O's alike!

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  • SeVere
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    We have certified County Correctional Officers here in IL. They however do not like to be referred to as Correctional Officers. Many avoid saying that they are correctional officers and instead say they are Peace Officer Deputy Sheriffs but it usually takes about 20 questions or so before Correctional Officers will admit that they work in the Jail.

    Yes they are certified by the state , yes they have police powers, but are not certified Law Enforcement Officers.

    There is for whatever reason an adverse reaction to telling law enforcement officers that they are correctional officers. They walk on eggshells and say, they are in law enforcement, then the sheriff's office then a Deputy Sheriff Peace Officer, and finally when pressed admit to working in the Jail.

    Nothing wrong with working in corrections, but come on just admit that you do.

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  • redwood
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    Word on the street out here in California is that Shane was fired for using too many capital letters.

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  • SOLID BLUE
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    In Canada Fed C/O's used to have to bu their own, we are now issued a badge and wallet ID.

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  • FEDLEO
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    Bop And Badges

    BOP and BADGEs...................................

    Here is a website form a Nationally recognized Law Enforcement Badge Manufacture that has available for HR 218 Officer's. It is called the HR218 Concealed Carry Badge. This badge has no inference or connection with the BOP it is only for HR 218 Officer's that want a badge to supplement what they carry that was made specifically for HR 218 Concealed Carry.
    This is a law enforcement quality badge, size 2
    Last edited by FEDLEO; 10-02-2005, 04:26 AM.

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  • pateshane
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    Well Atlcop That Is A Matter You Will Have To Bring Up With The Many Sheriff Departments In Ga . As I Have Stated Before When I Was Hired By Gwinnett County S.O. I Was Hired As A Deputy Sheriff Not A Detention Officer . If A Department Hires A Detention Officer The Department By State Law Only Has To Jailer Certify That Officer With In Six Months . However If A Department Hires You As Deputy Sheriff That Agency Has To Law Enforecement Certify You In 2 Years . Some People Are Confused Because In Ga Deputy Sheriffs And Detention Officers Both Work In The Jail , And If A Deputy Works In The Jail He Is Also Required To Be Jailer Certified As Well As Law Enforcement Mandated . The Reason Some Sheriff Departments Will Not Hire Detention Officers Is Because They Fill ,That Is Just A Warm Body Filling A Uniform And Their Is Little Room For Advancement . But If You Hire Deputy Sheriffs The Skys The Limit , Plenty Of Room To Advance And Plus A Step Up In Pay. I Will Give You A Example The Bibb County Sheriffs Office In Macon Ga Hires Deputy Sheriffs , Uncertified Deputies In Bibb County Are Firearmed Certified And Issued Take Home Weapons The Morale Of The Department Is Good Theese Deputies Will Eventualy Be Mandated , In The Meanwhile They Know That Their Department Has Trust In Its Deputies . On The Other Hand We Have Fulton County Sheriff Office That Department Hires For The Majority Detention Officers To Work In The Jail No Requirment To Law Enforcement Certify Them , no Real Advancement , Morale Is Low And If You Watch The News On A Constant Basis You Will See How This Affects That Department . Maybe The State Of Georgia Should Look To Its Neighbor To The South , Their Are No Jailers In Florida The Jails Are Run By State Post Certified Corrections Officers A Title One Can Be Proud Of And A Lot Of Room For Advancement . Ga Should Do Away With All Jailers, And Detention Officers And Have Certified Corrections Officers To Run The Jails But Thats Just My Opinion .
    Last edited by pateshane; 08-05-2005, 06:20 PM.

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  • AtlCop
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    Originally posted by ftlaudcop
    if ya work for a sheriff....what other title is he authorizd to appoint ?
    Detention Officer.

    Here in Georgia, a P.O.S.T. Certified Deputy Sheriff has statewide Law Enforcement Jurisdiction. As I've said in some of my other posts, the Sheriff is a Constitutionally created office and as such is considered the most powerful law enforcement entity in Georgia.

    Given the power of a certified Deputy Sheriff in Georgia, I don't think any non-certified officer should be referred to as a Deputy.

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  • pateshane
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    Thanks For The Feed Back .

    I Appreciate All Of The Feed Back . I Think That It Is A Shame That A Agency Does Not Trust Its Officers And When It Comes Down To It That Is The Real Reason Behind This Department Not Issuing Badges . I Once Worked For A Agency Like That . Yes I Know That Their Are Alot Of Screw Ups Out There But The Majority Of Them Are Certified Police Officers Not Jailers Or Corrections Officers . You Dont See Police Departments Yanking Badges Because One Of Their Officers Crossed The Line They Deal With That Officer Individually . I Think The Officers Of The B.o.p Deserve More Respect And It Is Time That They Are Treated Like Law Enforecement Officers Instead Of Highly Paid Security Guards .

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  • SHU
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    BOP vs State Prisons

    The BOP does seem a little funny about things. I interviewed at a fed Prison in NYC a couple of weeks back and while I was in a waiting room before the interview, the CO who checked people in was not to busy so we talked a bit about the joint.He told me that COs don't carry a baton or pepper spray while they are on the block. I asked him why not and he said why have more weapons on the block? I was taken aback by this but didn't want to make a fuss and possible have this guy say something to his bosses about the guy interviewing being heavy handed with the clients. Then during the interview the panel was the HR lady, a Shrink and a Boss. Everybody was nice and all and asked pretty much the standard questions except the shrink. He was nice too but he asked me if I was watching a group of inmates work and one of the inmates was not pulling his weight as far as their jobs went, would I make him do the worst job all the time. I sad yes I would since he is not pulling his weight. The shrink then followed up with,"what if the inmates were all of different racial backgrounds? Would you still make that inmate do the hardest job all the time and possibly have that inmate feel he is being treated differently due to his race. I told him that I understood his position and I would rotate the workers jobs but that inmate who did the worst work would most likely get the worst job more often than not due to his poor performance on the job.The Boss on the panel give me smile and a nod and the with this being said the shrink was really worried about not offending this inamte.He said, "well you work in a prison now that has a different pop so I can see how you would handle it in that way. I currently work in what you could call a "old school" southern max prison in North Carolina. Inamtes feelings are not a consideration were I work and I got the impression that the feds seemed a bit to PC in my opinion. Where I work, if a inamte steps up to you, you deal with him quickly by any means and then write it up all nice like later without worry about feelings and PC B.S. But I played the game during the interview without totally selling out all self respect. I got a call about a week ago and the HR lady said the warden was reviewing my application and she seemed real positive about everything so I guess I didn't blow it during the interview. I don't like the idea of all the PC crap in a prison but its a big bump up in pay so I'll play nice if thats what it takes to get ahead. The other thing I noticed was the uniforms or I should say the lack of. They look more suited to those selling cell phones than that of a CO IMHO. But like I said, I'll roll with it for the bump and the matching TSP.

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