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  • scotty_appleton814
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    Originally posted by NoLimitJay1347 View Post
    Anybody here that has transitioned from corrections to police/sheriff/federal agent positions?
    I did.

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  • NoLimitJay1347
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    Anybody here that has transitioned from corrections to police/sheriff/federal agent positions?

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  • gmen0587
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    I may end up in Coleman but might transfer back to fort dix if things don’t workout as planned. So I can get back to my family pretty much. It’s complicated but I did not want to have to wait a whole year to transfer. Hopefully it all works out but just a backup plan

  • Yungstar713
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    Yes but it depends on the facility your trying to go to. If they are hurting yea it can be done in less than a year. Ive seen guys transfer after 6 months.

  • gmen0587
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    Is it easy to transfer from one prison to another? Also, could it be done with less than a year OTJ?

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  • Signal108M
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    Here’s the pertinent part from OPM pay retention rules:

    An agency may not provide pay retention to an employee who-
    Is reduced in grade or pay for personal cause or at the employee's request;

  • Signal108M
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    I transferred from Dept of Treasury civil service as a GS12 step 10 to a BOP position graded as GS 7 thru 10. BOP brought me in as a GS10 step 10. Since I had voluntarily transferred that’s the best they could do.

    Here the OPM fact sheet on pay retention:
    https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-over...pay-retention/

  • Rolando89
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    Don't do it stay away from bop.

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  • Badger99
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    Just curious what BOP would do/hire someone at if they're already a federal employee (a GS-11) with a graduate degree? Thanks

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  • Rolando89
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    So my eod is October and thats my 7th year which I was supposed to get a step increased. So do I have to wait another 2 years now?

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  • Yungstar713
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    Check your epp its on there. We also went up a step when my local uinion and several LTs swore it wasnt going to be a big raise and a step increase lol

  • JZ71LT
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    It started 7/31. So the pay period that ended yesterday.

  • Rolando89
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    Is it this pay period the 8s come in?

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  • in625shooter
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    Yungstar here has been my experience on Folks making 8 AND what 8's roles were when 8 spots were competitive.

    DISCLAIMER I am just recounting what I saw from 2000-2020 so if you are not interested scroll on!

    I hired in at an old school USP that became a complex. It was a stand-alone homesteader joint when I hired in. Homestead joints have 2nd a-4th Generation employees that a GS 8 or Unit Manager spot is the premier spot for them and they are not moving. So sometimes that makes it tricky as spots don't open up as often. USP's are a little better than Medium or Lows as they had more GS 8 spots.

    Complexes or newly activating institutions are/were the easiest to make your 8 at/ If you were willing to move you could be a warden. The downside to that when they activated AUSP Thomson they sat dormant for a couple years with no inmates other than minimum security campers to help do labor. So you had staff not really having true USP inmate responsibilities or even ever placed handcuffs on real inmates getting their GS 8's.

    When I hired in a GS 8 was God and they ran the shift. At least at a USP you didn't want to go to a LT for anything unless you called a fight or something. 8's ran it. They also quashed a lot of stupid Rookie/staff stuff. LT's were above God and I saw rookies get walked out by LT's on evening watch a few times told they didn't have a job and call the captain. And next day when the rookie pled their case Capt and HR said they already had their answer and they could resign or be fired. It kept staff in line. And LT's called the admin after the smoke cleared with homicides or serious use of force stuff. Nobody had Blackberries or whatever they carry now.

    Sometime in 2008 it started changing slowly. At stand alones when I hired it wasn't uncommon to have 13 years at mine before you even made the desk on an 8 board and got it. I know another one 17 years was the norm. Now (or before the automatic 8) if Staff didn't get it by year 3 or 4 OMG the Humanity was gone, let the bang ins begin yada yada (which that sort of showed the Warden they made the right choice to me). So there was that. and it seemed Admin started giving 8's out earlier and earlier so it was a matter of time it became automatic again.

    So at some point 8's weren't allowed to be 8's and GS 11's weren't allowed to be GS 11's as you couldn't get in someone's arse anymore and be done with it they would cry to the union or HR or the Captain and then you have staff being carried for 6 month of AWOL and they still won't fire them. (and I spent time as a GS 11 LT so I saw it first hand)

    The Good thing about automatic 8's is it opens up spots for folks that would take a paid move (if they still give them) to put in for a LT spot somewhere and not have to wait for a retirement to maybe make the board so there is that. But if you don't mind moving I have seen the most inept GS 7 Officers move and make AW and even Warden.

  • Yungstar713
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    Thats good info. I'm pretty sure the gs8 wa supposed to be like a SGT role like how some other corrections agencies have those but honestly the way its been used since ive been in the bureau at my joint at least most gs8 dont want to promote and pick easy post and only do bpt ot. Then gs7s work critical posts and cant even BQ. Im suprised it went through but i dont think its over because now now R&D and S.I.S im sure are going complain and try to shoot for 9 pay. Im suprised it’s happening as well but im sure EEO complaints and homie hook ups had alot to do with it because thats another problem ive seen with alot of recent people who have gotten their 8s.

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