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  • I wouldn’t mind pulling OT on the weekends. I tested and interviewed already. I asked a million questions and I’m looking forward to the call and the opportunity to add yet another Fed badge to the collection over my nomadic career. The good news is that I’ll hit twenty covered sooner than later. Who knows maybe I’ll like it and stay longer.

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    • in625shooter
      in625shooter commented
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      OT availability for non custody can also depend on the institution MOU. Some institutions are different from others. Mine for instance all custody regardless of seniority gets first dibs on any scheduled OT. Anything last min they will do an "All Call" so anyone can take it first come first take.

  • Why doesnt BOP allow a bachelors with SAA for GL7 when all 1811, secret service, cbp, HSI and many other agencies do.

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    • in625shooter
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      For whatever reason BOP is more about experience to get in the door. I have mixed feelings in it. I see the side where someone with education but as someone that had Military and civilian LE experience before BOP truly believe as an Officer everyone should take their lumps.

      If one has a degree once they get in other doors can open for them and I'd recommend going the case manager route as your an automatic GS 11. Officer toos ougbat GL 8 with a competitive promotion and same with GL 9 LT and GS 11 LT (unless you ou do the 9/11 USP route.

  • I interviewed 4+ weeks ago at a smaller FCI and felt it went very well. Still haven’t heard anything back (no tentative offer, no appointment for physical, no emails, etc). Current status on the BOP HR website remains “applications are being processed.”

    Covid has probably impacted a lot of BOP internal processes. And this particular FCI is understaffed in their HR department so I hate to call them to check my status.

    What’s the longest “normal” amount of time between interview and receipt of tentative job offer or scheduling physical and drug screen (this probably differs between facilities)?

    When should I grow concerned about no communication from the FCI and/or no change in my application status on the website? Again I hate to bother them when they’re dealing with the virus and are also understaffed in HR.
    Last edited by Signal108M; 04-10-2020, 01:47 PM.

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    • in625shooter
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      If it's been 4 weeks since you talked t ok an th one give the HR Office a call and touch again as. Trust me they are not that busy I'd call and touch base about every other week The way it is with most BOP jobs (internal) is they are suppose to have the person hired by the 90th day they pull the register or applications.

      With new hires there is still a 90 day time frame but they have some wiggle room as far a starting the IFclass outside of the 90 day mark. I interviewed in Oct for gired told November was start the told 3 days later it was on hold because of Gispanic Immerauon program they bbn had and was still hired but didnt start til April.

      They no longer have that program as it was a failure and it was over 20 years ago so dont worry.

      So call them and get the skinny from then.

      Good Luck

  • Can having a 4 year degree and TSA experience get you hired as an gl6 or gl7?

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    • in625shooter
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      Not as a 7 Probably not a 6 but depends. The last 10 or so years most Warsens start out everyone at the GL 5 rate wether they qualify as a 6 or not. In the case of someone with prior Federal civilian service you will be started out in say the GL 5 ut instead os a step 1 you will be a step whatever is close to your prvious Federal rate.

      Your 7 is automatic but you ha e to be a 6 for a year.

      I know a couple folks that started out as GS 5 (and 6 back years ago) that started in step 10 because they came over from an Army guard unit as civilian employees.

      However there can be individual case variables so I'd consult an HR office

    • Camelbak
      Camelbak commented
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      They started me out as a five back in 2016, I had military experience and a bachelors. However, HR said everyone starts out as a five at that facility. When I went to FLETC, a lot of my classmates got started as six and they were less qualified than me.

      So you might get a six depending on where you end up, seven isn't going to happen though.

    • Ty808
      Ty808 commented
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      My advice for you is to just put in for all 3, GL5,6,7. You never really know what they are willing to hire at. I had RRC experience which we were contracted thru the BOP but it was far from actual institution experience by any means. Got hired on as a GL6. Went to my first day of IF and learned only 4 out of 18 of us CO got picked up as GL6 while everyone else got picked up as GL5. And out of the 4 of us I had the least experience with working in an actual institution. Some of the guys that got picked up as a GL5 had actual LEO experience or had been with the state DOC for a few years before making the switch.

  • I got hired as a 7 along with 3 others in my class. First time in the bureau came on as 5. Left for a couple years, came back in as a 7. Guess it depends on the warden and joint but it is 100 percent possible to come in as a 7. I have a military back ground, prior federal corrections, and an associates degree.

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    • in625shooter
      in625shooter commented
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      Was your post BOP GOV pay above GS 6 step 10? Because that's about the only 2 scenarios OR you had your 6 close enough to a year TIG.

  • Originally posted by Bowhunter2116 View Post
    I got hired as a 7 along with 3 others in my class. First time in the bureau came on as 5. Left for a couple years, came back in as a 7. Guess it depends on the warden and joint but it is 100 percent possible to come in as a 7. I have a military back ground, prior federal corrections, and an associates degree.
    Were you a 7 in your BOP career prior to leaving?

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    • Bowhunter2116
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      Negative sir. Left as a 6 step 2.

  • I just got a notification to fill out a OF-5 form I requested Brooklyn MDC and it seems like I got my request
    I have a few questions

    How is the schedule?
    Swaps or Mutual tours permitted?
    Hows the OT at Brooklyn MDC?

    any info would be greatly appreciated

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    • I actually got to a notification to fill out an OF-5 for Hazelton last week but I had to decline the interview on Friday because I could not get a courtesy interview. I live in Connecticut and I could not get Danbury, New York, Brooklyn, Fort Dix or Fairton to do a courtesy interview because of the virus. West Virginia was too far a drive for me. I felt upset but I had no choice. The HR person did put me on their July timeline which I appreciated but I really wish it did not have to come to it. Then I come across this article which was posted yesterday:

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterp.../#20a2c46733b5

      The article says that the BOP plans to increase hiring for "key positions and locations" but how can they hire when institutions can't even do courtesy interviews or even regular interviews? I know I am ranting here and I realize I am probably not the only one with this experience, but between my recent experience and this article, I can't help but notice a conflict. If anyone has any insight on this, I would appreciate it.

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      • Originally posted by A300! View Post
        I actually got to a notification to fill out an OF-5 for Hazelton last week but I had to decline the interview on Friday because I could not get a courtesy interview. I live in Connecticut and I could not get Danbury, New York, Brooklyn, Fort Dix or Fairton to do a courtesy interview because of the virus. West Virginia was too far a drive for me. I felt upset but I had no choice. The HR person did put me on their July timeline which I appreciated but I really wish it did not have to come to it. Then I come across this article which was posted yesterday:

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterp.../#20a2c46733b5

        The article says that the BOP plans to increase hiring for "key positions and locations" but how can they hire when institutions can't even do courtesy interviews or even regular interviews? I know I am ranting here and I realize I am probably not the only one with this experience, but between my recent experience and this article, I can't help but notice a conflict. If anyone has any insight on this, I would appreciate it.

        I will answer as a 20 year guy and I am not being a dick just the straight and narrow. The Courtesy interview is just that. A courtesy. Which means even in normal times they don't have to do it As far as HR. Like every staff or place there are good and bad examples. Some work for you some dont care and rubber stamp the minimum.

        This madness will eventually level our. It probably seems worse because you are trying to get on. Believe it or not there are a 100 different scenarios on bobbled hiring dates. I was given a firm offer in Nov 20 some years ago but then they rescinded it 3 days later. I (and the other 2 that hired with me) had to wait for Apr then came on board because of a since failed recruitment thing they did (and Iwe all 3 had Vet points)

        So first rule in BOP....don't take anything personal. Everyone gets caught up in some HR BS at some point.

        In your specific case If you want in as quick as possible I'd plan to interview at Hazelton. This does 2 things 1 You get face to face time with the people you will be around. and 2 You get to check out the area. Especially if a move involves a Wife. You might see the area and say Heck no.

        Not saying anything bad about courtesy interviews as they can also benefit members but if you want on as fast as you can as far as right now that's about your only option.


        That said if you have decent employment (not saying you like it but decent and Bill's paid) Simply sit back and cruse as BOP will be hiring. There are a ton of us retiring this year so the hiring will be there in the foreseeable future.


        Good Luck
        Last edited by in625shooter; 04-16-2020, 10:10 AM.

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        • A300!
          A300! commented
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          Thanks for the insight I really do appreciate it. I realize I sounded frustrated, but I think it was the timing of it all that got to me. As I mentioned, I already declined the interview at Hazelton so I will have to wait until the July timeline and I hope by then, things will be a lot better. I am still debating as to whether or not I should switch my preference to another institution that might also be hiring soon, but depending on timing, I might run into the same situation as before.

          On another note, I can't believe that you had a firm offer rescinded over something and you had to wait several more months. That must have been really frustrating to you and the other 2 you mentioned.

      • Anyone know if Lompoc, CA is hiring?

        I was looking forward to starting the process with Victorville but it took entirely too long to even get the ball rolling.

        I just got hired as a DACP 0083 buut im trying to get closer back home and do something productive. I'm hoping with my training, experience, and now secret clearance itll help.

        Thank you in advance!

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        • Keyturner
          Keyturner commented
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          You would probably have a better chance of getting hired at Victorville. It's a complex with over 400 COs. Lompoc probably has less than half that number.

        • LevelHeaded
          LevelHeaded commented
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          Lompoc is hurting right now with the spread of Covid19. They’re taking anyone they can get, apply, call down and speak with HR.

        • Tjwright95
          Tjwright95 commented
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          Will do! Thank you!

      • So how does TIG work. Say you have been a GS5 with an agency for 6months and get hired with BOP as gl5 with zero break in service. Do you have to do 1 year as GL5 or only 6 months?

        So if your a gs5 step 10 with federal civilian agency. Will you be hired as a GL5 step 10 with BOP?
        Last edited by dangerr101; 04-18-2020, 10:34 AM.

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        • in625shooter
          in625shooter commented
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          There could be a couple exceptions but how it "Normally " goes is you wont lose pay. If your a GD and come over to BOP it's a GL so a GS 5 step 10 is lower than a GL 5 step 10. You generally wont make more money at first but again there's probably a case somewhere its not.

          As far as TIG coming from another agency. I have seen some plead their case and get it and others not. My suggestion badger the with your documentation (after you start) and make them tell you no.

          Whike not a concrete answer, Hope that it gives you a better idea

        • tigers2007
          tigers2007 commented
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          There is no pay entitlement if you aren’t forced out of a job (exceptions are typically RIF, reclass, etc). It’s all up to the hiring officials to justify it. My Federal high-3 average is $90k but I’ve bounced around the Fed. I asked if my GL would at least match my current GS and they said the local HR would make that decision, the courtesy interview location I was at said that they usually come very close.

      • FCI Edgefield is looking to hire another class of 15 in may and 15 in June. Anyone in the southeast region that is interested I would suggest applying. Grades 5,6, and 7 are being hired.

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        • Tiger, Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. But you don't normally collect Credientials. You are only covered in LEOSA on current agencies credentials provides you meet all the criteria. In BOP you are covered by LEOSA with BOP Credentials. You can ask to obtain Crediential after 10 years if your separating from service.

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          • tigers2007
            tigers2007 commented
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            I'm sorry I meant "LEOSA ID Card".

            Upon request of the leaving employee *and* permission from HQ, my former agency returned credentials with "Retired" or "Separated From Service" punched into them up until a couple years ago. They, like many others, now issue a sort of "LEOSA Identification Card" that merely indicates that said person is a "Qualified LEO" for LEOSA purposes. The LEOSA implied that law enforcement agencies were to issue a sort of ID card to qualified persons. There is a lot of case law on this and it favoured the government agencies; it is optional if they want to issue an ID card. Regardless, my former agency stands on basis that retirement or separated from service credentials DO NOT qualify for LEOSA identification; only their new LEOSA ID card will. I'm sure the risk management bean counters came up with that idea to cover the Agency's assets as much as possible.

            https://www.defendermagazine.com/wp-...mples_X688.jpg

          • in625shooter
            in625shooter commented
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            Being former AF and retired ANG I'm all familiar about the AF screwing the SPs. Nobody should have to pay money for a LEOSA agency Credientials.The 2013 update required the ID card or Credentials to specify LEO and that is when Military and DOD Police were added .

            The 2010 update reduced the years from 15 to 10. Most agencies issue a retired ID or Creditials. BOP when one retires OR you seperate afterr 10 years you are issued (you have to ask if you are separating) similar Creditials except they say Retired LEO.

            BOP has had an issue or 2 but as far as the LEOSA after the first year in 2005 with some back and fourth they so the right thing. Some staff have misinformation but the Agency (other than again a mis informed staff member here or there) has it right for the most part. Lots better than in 2005 when it was hot of the presses.
            Last edited by in625shooter; 04-27-2020, 08:39 AM.

        • Anyone work at an FDC? How is the day to day operation?

          Do FDC have chow halls and the yard?

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          • Originally posted by dangerr101 View Post
            Anyone work at an FDC? How is the day to day operation?

            Do FDC have chow halls and the yard?
            Generally FDCs are fed on the floor aka food cart transferred up. Rec Yars sorting. Usually 4 walls and open air top

            Day to day it's generally a modified lock down environment depending on on security level. You dont have to deal with stuff like a FCI USP as FDC inmates are short term hold You will see inmates coming and going to court a lot.

            That's the genwral6surw someone else can give more detailed info

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