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  • I bought my house when I was a DOD Guard, I bought it specifically because it moved me closer to work. I had applied to the BOP job a WHILE ago
    Former Police Officer (Injured LOD)
    USAF VETERAN 2004-2012
    "The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day."-LTC Grossman
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    • Originally posted by in625shooter View Post

      Yes, you will start at the same pay so you shouldn't loose money. (Actually o my way to loose is go from a GS 11 somewhere then take a GL 6 job you would go to a 7 step 10 which is lower than any 11 but never seen that)

      Everyone (or most everyone) coming g over goes to a 5 or 6 step whatever.

      A friend was a Army NG tech as a WS something and come in as a 6 step 10 with BOP when they hired most at GS 6

      so if i get hired at gl-5 step 4, then next year i will be gl-6 step 5 then gl-7 step 6?

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      • Originally posted by dangerr101 View Post


        so if i get hired at gl-5 step 4, then next year i will be gl-6 step 5 then gl-7 step 6?
        I believe you would be every 2 or 3 years between steps at that point. Generally when you hire in you start at GL 5 or 6 step 1 then at the start of your second year you would go to a 6 step 2 (if you hire in as a 6 you would go to a 7 step 2) then at the start of your 3rd year you Bo matter whT you hired in as would be a 7 step 3 then at the start of you 4th year be a step 4. After that it's every 2 years between steps until step 7 then step 8,9 and 10 are 3 years.

        I could be wrong but I believe coming over from another agency you start hire (at say a GL 5 step whatever but at your year with BOP you would go to a 6 then a 7. Then after that where ever you are step wise you would fall on that however many years between.

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        • Originally posted by dangerr101 View Post

          so will BOP match other fed agencies? i am current TSA.......would i come in as GL-5 with higher step.

          are they required to match the pay? or is it there choice.
          >> Pay-Leave-Policy <[email protected]> 3/28/2016 2:45 PM >>




          Pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 5334(b), the two-step promotion rule states that a GS employee promoted to a position in a higher grade is entitled to basic pay at the lowest rate of the higher grade that exceeds his or her existing rate of basic pay by not less than two step increases of the grade from which promoted. A promotion is defined in 5 CFR 531.203 as a GS employee’s movement from one GS grade to a higher GS grade while continuously employed (including such a movement in conjunction with a transfer).

          Pay should be set for an employee promoted from GS-5, step 5, on special salary rate table 983Q to a GL-6 position in RUS in 2014 as follows:

          This is part of my response from OPM the relevant portion as it pertains to transfers of GS employees, I'm not sure how that works for personnel in Pay bands since TSA uses pay bands. E-mail [email protected] they've gotten back to my pretty quickly with a response. The crucial step that caused my issue is the HR staff over looked this step:
          Step C Determine the payable (highest) rate of basic pay for the step or rate determined in step B by applying any locality payment or special rate supplement applicable to the given grade, based on the employee's position of record before promotion and official worksite after promotion.
          The payable (highest) rate of basic pay for GS-5, step 7, is the corresponding GS-5, step 7, on special rate table 983Q ($42,891)
          Last edited by dod299; 10-18-2016, 03:55 AM.

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          • Originally posted by dangerr101 View Post


            so if i get hired at gl-5 step 4, then next year i will be gl-6 step 5 then gl-7 step 6?
            The easiest way to figure out this scenario If your are brought in as a GL5 step 4, when promoting to GL6, (go to whatever locality chart that your on increase your current grade by two steps GL05- step 4($43,089) to GL5 step 6($ 45,244) the find the closest GL6 step 4 step. ($45,630), then you would do the same when going to GL 7 however that would bring you back to GL 7-3(48,040) because when the promotion kicks in you would go from GL06 step 4 to GL06 step 6 (48,032) is closest to GL07/3. this is good stuff so you won't end up in my situation. I hope this answers your questions.

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            • Here is a view of the new uniform from a LT, not really cracked up on the Black Panther vibe

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              • Hey guys!

                After nearly 2 years with an application in I finally got a call to interview at FCI Bennettsville, SC!

                I currently work for state probation and I have a question I am hoping you can help me with.

                I applied for this position at the GS-5 level since I only had military exp and a bachelor degree when I applied. I now have over a year and a half exp as a probation officer. When I go to this interview next week at the federal prison will it be appropriate to ask them to start me out at a higher step in GS-5 to match my current pay? I am currently making ~40k/year and I really want to be federal, but I don't want to take a pay cut!

                Looking at the CHARLOTTE-CONCORD, NC-SC GS scale for 2016 I would need at least GS-5 step 7...which is $38,811, is this realistic to obtain or am I gonna take a pay cut to go federal. Or am I missing some extra pay this table is not showing.

                So in a nut shell:
                1.) Is it appropriate to ask about pay at this upcoming interview
                2.) Is asking them to match my state pay at around GS-5 step 7 (~39k/year) ever going to happen.

                Thanks in advance guys, ill continue looking through these 216 pages =).

                EDIT:
                I found I was not looking at the LEO pay table, but now I am! GS-5 step 1 pay will work for me, but I'll still ask is this upcoming interview of mine the appropriate time to ask for a step increast to 2 or 3 due to my exp in probation.
                Last edited by Achyuta; 10-18-2016, 10:04 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Achyuta View Post
                  Hey guys!

                  After nearly 2 years with an application in I finally got a call to interview at FCI Bennettsville, SC!

                  I currently work for state probation and I have a question I am hoping you can help me with.

                  I applied for this position at the GS-5 level since I only had military exp and a bachelor degree when I applied. I now have over a year and a half exp as a probation officer. When I go to this interview next week at the federal prison will it be appropriate to ask them to start me out at a higher step in GS-5 to match my current pay? I am currently making ~40k/year and I really want to be federal, but I don't want to take a pay cut!

                  Looking at the CHARLOTTE-CONCORD, NC-SC GS scale for 2016 I would need at least GS-5 step 7...which is $38,811, is this realistic to obtain or am I gonna take a pay cut to go federal. Or am I missing some extra pay this table is not showing.

                  So in a nut shell:
                  1.) Is it appropriate to ask about pay at this upcoming interview
                  2.) Is asking them to match my state pay at around GS-5 step 7 (~39k/year) ever going to happen.

                  Thanks in advance guys, ill continue looking through these 216 pages =).

                  EDIT:
                  I found I was not looking at the LEO pay table, but now I am! GS-5 step 1 pay will work for me, but I'll still ask is this upcoming interview of mine the appropriate time to ask for a step increast to 2 or 3 due to my exp in probation.
                  ​​​​​​By all means ask but here is how it will go down. The highest they can place you is a GL 6 step 1. They can not place you at step 2,3,5 etc ubless you are coming g from excepted civilian Federal service (VA, DOD etc)

                  How it use to work is with a year experience you started at GL 6 step 1 and clever/Military VRA 5 step 1. However they have started bringing everyone on at 5 step 1 to save money. Its up to the Warden. It probably won't work in your favor but by all means ask the HR person you never know

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                  • Take the job at a 5 but also immediately reapply as a 6. If they hire again then you can be picked up while already working as a 6.

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                    • Originally posted by Rmodel1965 View Post
                      Take the job at a 5 but also immediately reapply as a 6. If they hire again then you can be picked up while already working as a 6.
                      The problem with that is you only have a temp gain in pay but it costs you in the long run. If you go from a 5 step 1 and they allow you to get bumped up it will be at your 6 month mark. But you will only go to a 6 step 1. The problem is you will be a 6 step 1 for a year so you wouldn't see a 6 step 2 or 7 step 3 for 6 months longer than if you just plugged along as a 5, then 6 then 7.

                      If 2 people hire in the same day one as a 5 step 1 other 6 step 1. At the year mark the 5 goes to a 6 step 2 and the 6 goes to a 7 step 2. At the end of year 2 they both are a 7 step 3. The only thing the one starting out as a 6 is they had their 7 for a year so they are eligible to put in for their 8. However most don't or shouldn't get their 8 until they have 5 years in.

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                      • Originally posted by in625shooter View Post
                        Here is a view of the new uniform from a LT, not really cracked up on the Black Panther vibe
                        No stripe in the pants? We're going to look like nightclub bouncers.

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                        • Originally posted by JohnnyUtah1989 View Post

                          No stripe in the pants? We're going to look like nightclub bouncers.
                          I don't even understand why we're changing at all. I personally think they're fine, especially if an institution made some sort of standard.
                          I don't know everything, but I am a superlative Googler.

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                          • Originally posted by 60MM View Post

                            I don't even understand why we're changing at all. I personally think they're fine, especially if an institution made some sort of standard.
                            Agreed. That black is going to be so damn hot in the summer on the compound.

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                            • I recently applied for a position at a local FCI facility near my home. However, I am currently a Federal employee Contract Specialist (1102) for the DoD and I am a GS-7 step 1 which is $43,551 a year....does the BOP match pay?

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                              • yes they will step you out in pay

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