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  • Can someone enlighten me on the special units with the BOP. I recall recently seeing a special agent position but what other units are there at what are the prerequisites.

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    • Originally posted by P.I.D.I01 View Post
      Can someone enlighten me on the special units with the BOP. I recall recently seeing a special agent position but what other units are there at what are the prerequisites.
      They have a Special Agent Investigator posision or SIA. The SIA is the one in charge of the Special Investigations Section. there are generally 1 or 2 SIA's a couple SIS LT's and then GS 8 SIS Techs. They all work in tandum on inmate cases, gang stuff, attempted drug intros etc etc. The SIS LT's and SIA are the only ones that handle or interview staff for any staff cases IE Misconduct (like not following policy) gving afadavits for any allegation.

      To be a SIA you have to be a GS 11 for 12 weeks but you really need years of SIS experience. there are very few slopts throughout the BOP but many many SIA's go on to become OIA Special Agents and such.

      As far as special teams they are all meade up from staff from all departments.

      There is Crisis Support team (CST) they are the most activated of any team, they are activated for any emergency. Institutional emergencies, staff that pass away from accidents, sickness and even natural disasters like if staff loose houses in a flood, tornado etc.

      Then Crisis Negotiation Team (CNT) they do any hostage negotiations

      Disturbance Control Team (DCT) Less lethal, used for crowd control and inmate movement inside.

      Command Center Support Team CCST a group of staff that run control center under the NIMS system for any event.

      And Special Operations Response Team (SORT) SORT is the leathal option for Wardens for any hostage resue, building entries, high risk escorts, and many many other things. Not every institution has a SORT team since they are a special unit with special traning requirements. All FCC's and USP's have SORT teams but only a few stand alone FCI's have them. They had a large restructuring in 2003 and deactivated a ton of SORT teams and consolodated them so each SORt team has a couple different institutions they will cover.

      SORt has assult elements, Sniper teams, Tactical trainers (TT's keep everything on par with Central and Regional Office standards and evaluate other SORT teams as well) Breachers, etc etc. Snipers have to go through a special school which as of now has a 60% failure rate, I have been thrugh it and spent 10 years on SORT and 5 years behind the rifle and it aint no joke,

      Teams that have a SORT team are usually the 2nd most activated team behind CST.

      All teams are a colateral duty in that you do your job throughouyt the month and are assigned to attend training (yes on the clock so you get paid) For all the teams you must have your year in and be off any probationary status. DCT and SORT have actual tryouts, The rest are usually just an appointment.
      Last edited by in625shooter; 01-19-2016, 11:27 AM.

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      • Originally posted by in625shooter View Post
        They have a Special Agent Investigator posision or SIA. The SIA is the one in charge of the Special Investigations Section. there are generally 1 or 2 SIA's a couple SIS LT's and then GS 8 SIS Techs. They all work in tandum on inmate cases, gang stuff, attempted drug intros etc etc. The SIS LT's and SIA are the only ones that handle or interview staff for any staff cases IE Misconduct (like not following policy) gving afadavits for any allegation.

        To be a SIA you have to be a GS 11 for 12 weeks but you really need years of SIS experience. there are very few slopts throughout the BOP but many many SIA's go on to become OIA Special Agents and such.

        As far as special teams they are all meade up from staff from all departments.

        There is Crisis Support team (CST) they are the most activated of any team, they are activated for any emergency. Institutional emergencies, staff that pass away from accidents, sickness and even natural disasters like if staff loose houses in a flood, tornado etc.

        Then Crisis Negotiation Team (CNT) they do any hostage negotiations

        Disturbance Control Team (DCT) Less lethal, used for crowd control and inmate movement inside.

        Command Center Support Team CCST a group of staff that run control center under the NIMS system for any event.

        And Special Operations Response Team (SORT) SORT is the leathal option for Wardens for any hostage resue, building entries, high risk escorts, and many many other things. Not every institution has a SORT team since they are a special unit with special traning requirements. All FCC's and USP's have SORT teams but only a few stand alone FCI's have them. They had a large restructuring in 2003 and deactivated a ton of SORT teams and consolodated them so each SORt team has a couple different institutions they will cover.

        SORt has assult elements, Sniper teams, Tactical trainers (TT's keep everything on par with Central and Regional Office standards and evaluate other SORT teams as well) Breachers, etc etc. Snipers have to go through a special school which as of now has a 60% failure rate, I have been thrugh it and spent 10 years on SORT and 5 years behind the rifle and it aint no joke,

        Teams that have a SORT team are usually the 2nd most activated team behind CST.

        All teams are a colateral duty in that you do your job throughouyt the month and are assigned to attend training (yes on the clock so you get paid) For all the teams you must have your year in and be off any probationary status. DCT and SORT have actual tryouts, The rest are usually just an appointment.
        Thanks shooter so it seems after your year of probation you can start to move around and build your career.

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        • I would imagine since GL8 is hard to come by that it is hard to get into the SIS or any of these other special teams

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          • Originally posted by P.I.D.I01 View Post
            Thanks shooter so it seems after your year of probation you can start to move around and build your career.

            Yes and no, on the announcements for tryouts it points out it is a collateral duty, no promotion (from simply being on the team) yada yada. But it does help.

            Originally posted by P.I.D.I01 View Post
            I would imagine since GL8 is hard to come by that it is hard to get into the SIS or any of these other special teams
            You can apply as an GS 8 SIS Tech after a year as a 7. Many 7 officers get into SIS. To become an 11 LT you have to be an 9 LT for a year and to get into a 9LT spot you have to be an 8 Officer or SIS Tech ore an 8 or 9 of some sort for a year (Rec Zpe ialist etc but that route don't happen much) so you have to take your lumps usually.

            As far as the teams there is a selection process and not everyone is cut out for them.and not everyone makes the cut

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            • On Monday, I went in for my interview at an FDC. Six out of total were there. 4 were shown the door after the HR sit down.I did the whole process including the interview. I was told "if you're selected to move on, I will call you in a few weeks with your COE and well schedule your drug test."


              So basically does this mean It's totally up in the air or I'm more than likely going to get it? Thanks...

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              • Originally posted by JohnnyUtah1989 View Post
                On Monday, I went in for my interview at an FDC. Six out of total were there. 4 were shown the door after the HR sit down.I did the whole process including the interview. I was told "if you're selected to move on, I will call you in a few weeks with your COE and well schedule your drug test."


                So basically does this mean It's totally up in the air or I'm more than likely going to get it? Thanks...
                Different joints do different things, when I hired on we did everything same day. Only thing left to do afterwards was get my SF-85p done.

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                • Originally posted by JohnnyUtah1989 View Post
                  On Monday, I went in for my interview at an FDC. Six out of total were there. 4 were shown the door after the HR sit down.I did the whole process including the interview. I was told "if you're selected to move on, I will call you in a few weeks with your COE and well schedule your drug test."


                  So basically does this mean It's totally up in the air or I'm more than likely going to get it? Thanks...
                  It means you have passed everything so far, they could be waiting to do more interviews, people to retire so they know how many they can hire etc etc. until people that are going to leave leave they can't hire anyone. in rare cases a few folks that have a retirment date have cancelled it and stayed which could effect the numbers of new hires etc. It is very very rare.

                  Also (not personally you but as an example) you are good to go so far but there have been cases where people look great on paper and the interview and are awaiting the COE, UA etc and get that DUI crashing their efforts for a couple years.

                  So again while you have passed everything so far tthey have to wait for everything else to fall into place before they say here is when we are starting. and chances are they are tryong to put one class together for a few people so there is some legistics involved in getting everyone through all the hoops.Bottom line I wouldn't sweat it just be patient, you are almost there it sounds like.

                  Good luck

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                  • Johnny, if I were a gambling man, I'd say you've got it. Just a matter of time.

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                    • Thanks folks. Either way, it was a great experience and I'm grateful for all of the help on here. Hopefully I'll join the team soon

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                      • Alright, I have a retirement question. I see that a good handful of positions inside the BOP are not GL, they also have WS and GS.

                        If you switch from a GL to a WS or GS position, that means that you're also only getting the retirement rate of those at 1-1.1%, right?

                        So if you did 10 years as a GL, and 10 years as a GS (inside BOP), you wouldn't be able to take the LEO retirement at age 50, correct?

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                        • Originally posted by Fillup87 View Post
                          Alright, I have a retirement question. I see that a good handful of positions inside the BOP are not GL, they also have WS and GS.

                          If you switch from a GL to a WS or GS position, that means that you're also only getting the retirement rate of those at 1-1.1%, right?

                          So if you did 10 years as a GL, and 10 years as a GS (inside BOP), you wouldn't be able to take the LEO retirement at age 50, correct?
                          Pay no matter to the pay plan. GL, GD and WS are just different pay plans. With a couple of small exceptions like Chaplains and PHS folks, all BOP positions, regardless of the pay plan, are LEO positions with LEO retirement.

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                          • Originally posted by fed2015 View Post
                            Pay no matter to the pay plan. GL, GD and WS are just different pay plans. With a couple of small exceptions like Chaplains and PHS folks, all BOP positions, regardless of the pay plan, are LEO positions with LEO retirement.
                            Awesome! Thanks for the speedy reply, friend.

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                            • Originally posted by Fillup87 View Post
                              Alright, I have a retirement question. I see that a good handful of positions inside the BOP are not GL, they also have WS and GS.

                              If you switch from a GL to a WS or GS position, that means that you're also only getting the retirement rate of those at 1-1.1%, right?

                              So if you did 10 years as a GL, and 10 years as a GS (inside BOP), you wouldn't be able to take the LEO retirement at age 50, correct?
                              Originally posted by fed2015 View Post
                              Pay no matter to the pay plan. GL, GD and WS are just different pay plans. With a couple of small exceptions like Chaplains and PHS folks, all BOP positions, regardless of the pay plan, are LEO positions with LEO retirement.
                              Let me just add, Chaplins are on the GS plan and I believe they all start out at GS 12. PHS is on the Military pay scale and retirement plan, They do 20 and are elegible, They have a base Pay and BAQ, BAS all that. All are in the Officer ranks and are O 1 through O10 with the Surgeon General being THE main boss in DC. PHS is not covered by LEOSA.

                              As far as retirement with the WS rates there are some differences in they include their shift Differential where GL/GS does not. GL/GS gets 10% shift differential from hours worked from 6pm to 6 am where f a Ws worker works on hour between 6pm and 6am they get shift differintial for their whole shift BUT WS only gets 7 1/2% more instead of the 10% GS/GL gets. Can get very complicated.


                              Everyone else wether GS, GL, WS are on the LE retirement. The GL rate came about around 2008 ish. We all were GS but they wanted something to differentiate the non supervisory staff on the LE pay scale so all the non supervisory positions that were GS 9 and below were renamed GL 9 and below. Everything 10 and above remained as GS. So that tells you if it is on the LE retirment plan. Inder the 10 rate BOP is GL, Bureau of Indiana Affairs Police and Correctional Officers are GL etc etc etc.
                              Last edited by in625shooter; 01-21-2016, 12:54 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by in625shooter View Post
                                Let me just add, Chaplins are on the GS plan and I believe they all start out at GS 12. PHS is on the Military pay scale and retirement plan, They do 20 and are elegible, They have a base Pay and BAQ, BAS all that. All are in the Officer ranks and are O 1 through O10 with the Surgeon General being THE main boss in DC. PHS is not covered by LEOSA.

                                As far as retirement with the WS rates there are some differences in they include their shift Differential where GL/GS does not. GL/GS gets 10% shift differential from hours worked from 6pm to 6 am where f a Ws worker works on hour between 6pm and 6am they get shift differintial for their whole shift BUT WS only gets 7 1/2% more instead of the 10% GS/GL gets. Can get very complicated.


                                Everyone else wether GS, GL, WS are on the LE retirement. The GL rate came about around 2008 ish. We all were GS but they wanted something to differentiate the non supervisory staff on the LE pay scale so all the non supervisory positions that were GS 9 and below were renamed GL 9 and below. Everything 10 and above remained as GS. So that tells you if it is on the LE retirment plan. Inder the 10 rate BOP is GL, Bureau of Indiana Affairs Police and Correctional Officers are GL etc etc etc.
                                Okay, good stuff to know. The WS shift differential information is interesting to me, this is because where I work now we have GS, WS and WG, and I have heard some GS and WG employees arguing about shift differential. Now I think I know why they had different opinions.

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