I'll be graduating the LAPD academy soon and was wondering when it comes to O/D carrying, should I stick with my department issued Glock 22 or buy something smaller like a G27? Do any of you carry a G22 off duty, and if so where?
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Being in your same shoes over 4 years ago, I can tell you that unless you fell through the cracks in the weight dept, the Glock 22 is a terrible concealed carry. Why... because you will not be able to conceal it (required by policy).
With that said, I bought the G27 from proforce while in the academy and just recently added the Crossbreed supertuck as a CC holster. You might also consider the Glock 23 which is kind of the best of both worlds. It conceals nicely on medium framed adults and can be used as a duty gun if working in a plain clothes detail.
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I carry a Glock 23 as concealed and as my duty weapon. Very functional and comfortable for both duties.Comment
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I guess I'm the odd man out, but I carry the Glock 22 off duty with no problem... and I'm not a particularly big guy. With a slightly oversized hoody in the cold months and a button up shirt maybe one size over in the hot months, I don't have a problem. I've tried a few different holsters and after much ado, I wear a pancake holster that can reholster reasonably well, and have no problems.Comment
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It's also a little easier to carry OD. I carry a G23 OD sometimes, and it's just a bit too big to conceal comfortably.Comment
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I carry G22 on duty and wouldnt even think of hiding that thing off duty, i carry a G23 off duty and love it, but would like to get the G27 smallest.Comment
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I carried a G27 as a BUG for a while when I first started out and didn't like it. It's to thick and no matter where you put it it's annoying. I've since switched to my keltec and haven't looked back.
I carry my issued G22 off duty with no problem. I conceal it but I don't get bent out of shape over it. If it shows sometimes thats life. I do wear my badge on the belt right next to the gun. I also live in a prop-gun state so it's not uncommon for someone to carry concealed. We let the good guys carry guns here. If your policy requires concealment then wear it concealed. That doesn't mean it has to be invisible from all angles including ants and satellites. Everything always boils down to whats reasonable. If you wear it on your belt with your shirt or a jacket over it thats all you need.
When I first started carrying concealed (over 10 years ago) I was always nervous that someone would see the gun. Now I've grown out of that and carry what will get the job done.
Remember, there is a big difference between the roll of a BUG and an off duty gun.
A BUG is to defend you if the SHTF and you can't get to your primary. It's usually close quarters and personal where accuracy isn't as important as access.
Your off duty gun is going to be used in almost the same environments your primary is. There will usually be more space between you and the BG and people around like in a store or parking lot. In this case accuracy is important because of possible civilians in the area and the longer distance shot.Due to the Juvenile bickering and annoying trolling committed by members of this forum I have started an igore list. If your name is listed below I can't see you.
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I carry a G27 off duty.Comment
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G22 O/D sucks. Unless you live in a cold climate where you can wear layers, then it's not bad to have the extra ammo.
A G27 is a great BUG if you have a G22 because your G22 mags are compatible with the G27. But then again, a BUG is a pain in the butt to carry, I haven't heard one story of a successful BUG deployment. Mine goes in my bugout bag along with G22 ammo and my rifle mags.
A G26 (9mm) is a great O/D gun as it has more capacity (10+1) with the sacrifice of bullet power.Last edited by Lancaster1983; 11-17-2009, 04:59 AM. Reason: change a word and delete profanity (sorry)Comment
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I used to carry a G22 O/D in a Galco SkyOps IWB holster...No problems concealing it even under a t-shirt.
I recently switched to my Kimber UCII .45 in a Milt Sparks IWB...More comfortable to carry (thinner than the G22) but I still won't hesitate to carry the G22. I've also carried a G27 O/D and a .357 snubbie.
As I tell everyone who is interested in carrying O/D...You need to try out different guns and different holsters to find what YOU like. All of us have opinions and what works for me might now work for you. Everyone I know that has been carrying O/D for a while has a drawer full of holsters they don't use...Ask some of the old salts on your department if you can borrow/buy one to try out.Comment
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guns for O/D carry
If you are allowed other brands of gun, may I suggest a Kahr P9 or P40, nice single stack guns, www.kahr.com or
The subcompact Springfield XD-40 www.springfield-armory.com
I have both, and find both are good. for O/D use, the Kahr, is a little easier to conceal because it is a singel stack magazine.
May partner has the PM-9 and that is truely a pocket gun, really tiny, but very easy to hide.Comment
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Like someone else stated, I also carry a 22 off duty. For a few reasons, one being I don't have 500 bones to throw toward a gun, and I don't like leaving my duty weapon at the house for long periods of time. I have a nylon (inside the belt) holster, and even a pancake outside the belt holster..Both work fine. I am somewhat large, 6'4, 240, but never really thought about it. You cant throw it in a coat pocket or strap it to a leg, but it can be done.Comment
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I used to carry my Glock 22 in a IWB holster but it is so encumbersome. I now carry my glock 23 or my Ruger LCP.Conduct every traffic stop extending the olive branch of peace; while having a tactical plan to kill everyone inside the vehicle. - Gordon GrahamComment
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