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  • SDjohn
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    it wont be your last!

    It sounds like you did everything you could. We all were handcuffed by our fellow recruits while we were in the academy. They're not comfortable, but the crooks gotta deal with it.

    Oh yeah, in my arrest reports I always add the following, "I placed handcuffs on John Doe. I checked for tightness and double-locked the handcuffs."

    I do this so if a complaint ever arises, you documented your proper use of the handcuffs and complaint is sure to get thrown out with out some stupid IA investigation.

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  • Jenners
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    Nope, it's safety. We were all used to dipping a finger between the wrist and 'cuff to check fit, and apparently people are fingers broken that way. No thanks. I check the fit now by putting them on, then wiggling them before double-locking. If they just slide over that bone on the outside of the wrist (the ulna maybe?) then they are a good fit.

    Of course, this goes by the wayside if he/she is a kicking, struggling idiot. In that case, just get the 'cuffs on.

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  • BPD_126
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    Originally posted by Sheepdog110 View Post
    Use a pen instead. Using your finger to check for fit increases the risk that you'll be injured. The last thing you want to have happen is your finger getting broken by a guy who decided that he didn't want to go to jail after all.
    That's pretty hardcore!

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  • AgentFox
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    Either use two sets of cuffs linked together or try leg shackles. People will always complain. No one wants to go to jail, really. Expect flak, complaints, gripes and moaning and complaining. Guess what, you wouldn't need to be there if they weren't criminal. They set it up to be this way. Get over it.

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  • SlowDownThere
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    Originally posted by BluThruNThru View Post
    Any advice on how to do this better next time?

    By the way I belive he dropped the compliant because he realized that I had my dash cam on and the holding area he was in had full audio and video.
    Sounds like you did it just fine.

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  • thatboatguy
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    I would ask your jail guys about the larger size cuffs.... or even the flex cuffs... i have a few sets of them in the front of the car.. they work great for bigger peeps.. and i also have a set of the larger cuffs hanging on the spotlight.....

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  • Smurfette_76
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    First "big" one I ever arrested sticks out in my mind. He was revoked and as soon as dispatch gave me back the information, other Officers started walking all over themselves trying to tell me something...couldn't hear a single one of them since they were all yapping at one time. Come to find out, the driver had recently been released on a murder charge. When I told him to step out of the vehicle, I didn't know when that man was going to stop standing up. He was HUGE. All I could think was, "Holy crap, don't let him kill me."

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  • constablemike
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    In relation to handcuffs, I was told if were going to buy a second pair of cuffs, get some called "Big Daddy's". Supposedly they open quite a bit bigger than normal and close like 30% smaller. Anyone know the brand and model?


    Mike

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  • CruiserClass
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    Depends on how big "big" is, but leg shackles are sometimes called into handcuff service on the 400lb-ers. Use a zip tie between two links to shorten the chain.

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  • kcpd2528
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    +1 to the replies.

    I actually had to use shackles to handcuff one guy because his wrists were so large! Don't know what I would have done if we didn't have those available...maybe carry some zip ties?

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  • nebraska_deputy
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    Originally posted by C-15 View Post
    its been said and ill say it again, if you stay a LEO you can count on complaints or even a suit but if you do your job right dont worrie about it we all get em
    +1,000

    The camera can be the best thing known to an officer.

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  • C-15
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    its been said and ill say it again, if you stay a LEO you can count on complaints or even a suit but if you do your job right dont worrie about it we all get em

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  • geo141
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    Hey
    The most important thing is that your going home safe. Even in the best of circumstances people will always complain. Everyone's advice on documenting everything is great but do not sacrifice your tactics and training out of fear of complaints. In 2008 people are looking for easy pay outs, depending on the city your in the city will give him a lump sum and tell him to go away. I wish you continued success in your young career. Geo

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  • BluThruNThru
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    Thnx

    Thanks to everybody who posted replies (or that will in the future). I really appreciate the feedback. I belive the best part of our job is the brotherhood we have with each other.

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  • PhilipCal
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    While I fully agree with DAL's reply, keep in mind that the cuffs aren't designed for comfort, they're designed to restrain. Double locking has two basic functions. It keeps the cuffs from tightening up on the wrists, while immobilizing the hands. Follow, as a matter of habit, all the replies you recieved regarding documenting the arrest and field search.

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