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  • Enlisting as USAF SF while a civilian police officer

    Hello,

    I am a civilian police officer for a town. I completed a 20 week police academy and I have been a full time police officer for 6 years.

    I am currently in the process of trying to enlist in the USAF Reserves as a enlisted member of Security Forces. I am non prior service. My recruiter initially told me I would only have to complete BMT and they would recognize my academy allowing me to skip tech school.
    however, the other day I was told I would have to attend tech school and they would try to have me released from AIT early.

    Has anyone dealt with a similar situation? Thank you.

  • #2
    I have not personally been in this situation, but in my ten years of active duty time I have never come across anyone who skipped over any military school due to having civilian credentials. Of course, I have never been in the Air Force and....we all know they do things according to their own program so maybe it is possible. I would plan on hitting all the same schools a new recruit would hit because, essentially, that is what would be.

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    • #3
      Your recruiter lied to you. You will have to attend the SF Apprentice course
      I don't answer recruitment messages....

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      • #4
        Though there are similarities between the jobs, they are different. Keep in mind that as a SF you will have to enforce military regulations as well as any applicable civilian laws on post. AFAIK you’ll need to attend the complete tech school. I’ve seen folks get civilian academies waived for civilian jobs by providing military credentials, however never the other way around.

        Was your recruiter gunning for the free toaster?

        Good luck!
        Getting shot hurts! Don't under estimate the power of live ammo. A .22LR can kill you! I personally feel that it's best to avoid being shot by any caliber. Your vest may stop the bullet, but you'll still get a nice bruise or other injury to remember the experience.

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        • #5
          You will attend the SF Academy... it'll probably be a joke with civvie creds.... I haven't been through since 2004, but we didn't do any EVOC or anything cool. That being said... no one will be impressed that you are a civilian cop and you'll probably be put in a leadership spot, and deployment after deployment after deployment... I would go and do something that has a better outcome, like Intel, or Computer Stuff... (FYI, I was Security Forces AD from 2004-2012 and my body is paying for it).
          USAF VETERAN 2004-2012
          "The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day."-LTC Grossman
          DA Public Safety Dispatcher, APG MD

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          • #6
            I was an Army MP and went to the Air Force Security Forces IMA.

            I know the Air Force Security Forces recognizes other services military police and security guard training but haven't heard of them recognizing any civilian training. But I could be wrong and if they for sure recognize it let us know.


            If you go through with it keep an open mind. They tend to be more security focused and are the grunts for the Air Force. The law enforcement side of it is different but the very basic fundamentals are the same.

            JFYI
            Once you finish your initial contract I would suggest looking at going IMA (individual mobilization augmenty) if you still want to serve. IMAs are reservists that are assigned to active duty units. When I was in it I basicly got to pick the days I wanted to work and when I did my AT. I had to do 12 days a year for my drill days plus my AT. When I reported in though I could be put on any shift, on any post and was expected to handle it like the active duty airmen.

            Good luck!

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            • #7
              Yeah, sorry, but your recruiter lied (don’t be too mad. They lie to everyone). You’ll go through tech school. But the actual “law enforcement” portion is only like 6 weeks. The rest of it is airfield and nuclear security and light infantry/small unit tactics. Plus, I doubt you qualified on machine guns and grenade launchers in your civilian academy. You’ll probably know way more about LE than most active duty though, but you’ll probably get in trouble if you make a point of it. I was active duty for 8 years and I learned way more about LE in my first year as a civilian cop than I ever did while I was in.


              But really, unless you’re just dead set on security forces, pick another career field. Go intel or be a flyer. SF sucks.

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              • #8
                Have you considered the USCG Reserve as a Maritime Enforcement Specialist? You would go through their DEPOT program, which is a condensed boot camp and more than likely depending on your resume, come out as a ME3. They would recognize your academy and wave ME school. DEPOT is geared towards prior service or civilians who have a career that translates to the USCG, like policing.

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                • J2H
                  J2H commented
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                  I talked to a DEPOT recruiter and they told me they could not guarantee I'd be accepted as an NCO (I was an E-5 when I got out).

                • m.p.c
                  m.p.c commented
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                  The chances you wouldn't go in as an NCO is slim. The nice thing is you would no prior to signing your name on the dotted line. I'd be shocked if someone who is prior service (who left as an NCO) and has LE experience didn't go in as one.

                • J2H
                  J2H commented
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                  I'm not even considering it anymore. Rated for PTSD and I have a fractured vertebrae and weak/degenerative discs.

              • #9
                Originally posted by m.p.c View Post
                Have you considered the USCG Reserve as a Maritime Enforcement Specialist? You would go through their DEPOT program, which is a condensed boot camp and more than likely depending on your resume, come out as a ME3. They would recognize your academy and wave ME school. DEPOT is geared towards prior service or civilians who have a career that translates to the USCG, like policing.
                That sounds interesting.

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                • #10
                  Thank you for the replies. I was hoping the USAF Reserves was like the Coast Guard, in that they would consider civilian training. I am figured my recruiter is full of ****. Obviously, my academy didn't teach squad tactics or nuclear security. I have no problem going through as a pipeliner. I was just looking for clarification. I would consider the Coast Guard but I don't really want to be on a boat getting tossed around in the ocean. There are several usaf reserve bases near me, so I figured my odds of getting the job I want were good. I was considering the Army national guard but I don't want to get my dick kicked for 20 weeks. I hear air force quality of life is good and being an older recruit, that mattered to me. I wasn't too happy when they said tech school is only 65 days. Then they told me to divide by 5. Ugh

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                  • #11
                    If you are going CGR, you must be near a station or facility. They WILL NOT pay travel unless on orders for ADT or AD. Drills are on your dime. Same same for all Reserve.

                    You won’t be stuck on a boat as an ME unless that’s the only billet available. If you can do it, go CGR as you will have lots of things to do and places to go. BTDT.
                    Now go home and get your shine box!

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                    • #12
                      I second the USCG reserves. You can do Depot training and actually skip A school of the packet is done correctly. Plus you can come out as an E4 depending on your experience.

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                      • #13
                        My experience is that you will have to go to the full SF training course. Plus one on the IMA thing; it is, to me, the best program in the Reserves if you want to control your own destiny (or at least more of it).
                        Vengeance is not justice...

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