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DOD/DON Statutory Powers of Arrest?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by dod299 View Post
    Former DON, CNRNW NBK Bremerton.
    I’m waiting for my urine test appointment. These people are taking their freaking time!!!!!

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    • #17
      While I dont work for the Police, I know the situation is improving, theres now special pay for some as well as, 25% retention bonuses at the onboard and 1 yr mark and GS-6 promotion. There was a time when they were hiring police at GS-3....

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      • #18
        Originally posted by NCG128 View Post
        Did this ever get worked out? I heard that there was a push for this. Anyone have any current Intel on this? I was told that DOD/DON officers have statutory powers of arrest?
        The DON's that I worked with @ SB, had "NO" statutory powers to arrest. In fact, they were reminded by the instructors at fletc that they couldn't either. The few that could, only had that authority on proprietary DoD facilities/base. There were no difference in apprehension capabilities between them and the enlisted Navy MA's. both could detain civilians and apprehend military members, but that was it. I mean the position is just a security guard with a civilian police title.

        also someone who supposedly works for the LAAF base posted here couple months back that the they could assist with LAPD or El Segundo police calls....Lol fck NO he can't, the best he could do is get in on their radio channel, thats it.
        Last edited by Calitown; 05-05-2018, 07:04 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Calitown View Post

          The DON's that I worked with @ SB, had "NO" statutory powers to arrest. In fact, they were reminded by the instructors at fletc that they couldn't either. The few that could, only had that authority on proprietary DoD facilities/base. There were no difference in apprehension capabilities between them and the enlisted Navy MA's. both could detain civilians and apprehend military members, but that was it. I mean the position is just a security guard with a civilian police title.

          also someone who supposedly works for the LAAF base posted here couple months back that the they could assist with LAPD or El Segundo police calls....Lol fck NO he can't, the best he could do is get in on their radio channel, thats it.
          Even under proprietary jurisdiction, they do not have statutory authority.
          I don't answer recruitment messages....

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          • #20
            Originally posted by orlandofed5-0 View Post

            Even under proprietary jurisdiction, they do not have statutory authority.
            UCMJ statue, but never under county or state statutory, which a few DoD civilian cops think they fall under or deserve.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Calitown View Post

              The DON's that I worked with @ SB, had "NO" statutory powers to arrest. In fact, they were reminded by the instructors at fletc that they couldn't either. The few that could, only had that authority on proprietary DoD facilities/base. There were no difference in apprehension capabilities between them and the enlisted Navy MA's. both could detain civilians and apprehend military members, but that was it. I mean the position is just a security guard with a civilian police title.

              also someone who supposedly works for the LAAF base posted here couple months back that the they could assist with LAPD or El Segundo police calls....Lol fck NO he can't, the best he could do is get in on their radio channel, thats it.
              That not entirely accurate. LA AFB PD have an MOU that allows for them to assist locals, and enforce laws both on and off base. They send their officers to UPTP and get them 832 PC certified when they get back from the academy. Unless something has changed, they have assist locals on calls and still do even if its seldom.

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              • #22
                Curious about this. Our city had a big Navy housing complex in it, several miles from the nearest bases. There was a base police office in there, and they used to run calls with us under a MOA. They had a Virginia Dept of Forensic Science breath alcohol station there, which we used. They used to make arrests and take subjects to the closest magistrate. It was a great setup. I had to assist them once where they stopped a Navy O-5 speeding, and he wouldn't sign the summons. We assisted in hauling the guy out of his car under arrest. Guy refused to believe base police could touch him.

                I was supervisor in a precinct that had a large housing area next to and on a local base. Used to be base police would handle a lot of the calls, and we would assist. The housing areas used to be un by the Navy, but then they contracted it out. About that time base police was pulled behind the gates. We would get a 911 call from inside the base, and get stopped at the gate. A very effective community policing model in place, since the fallback was, in addition to civil charges, a call to the Command master Chief and the XO. Those alone were enough to ensure order. Pull the base police, and the place became another section 8 project. It was never resolved when I retired in 2014.

                Wasn't the officers or their supervisors fault. Even on base, no arrests. Hook him and take 'em back to their command. I hope things have changed.
                Last edited by phillyrube; Yesterday, 08:22 PM.

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                • #23
                  We did a lot of catch and release in the Dept of the Army. A few went to the local detention center, but most got cited and released.
                  USAF VETERAN 2004-2012
                  "The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day."-LTC Grossman
                  DA Security Guard, APG MD (GS-5 Step 06)

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