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  • Share you 31E (MOS) experience please.

    I am in a peculiar position.

    The army pulled the plug on my age waiver for OCS. I’m too old.

    Come April 1st I will be too old to enlist as well. However, I’ve jumped through all the hoops if I wanted to enlist (ASVAB, MEPS, Fitness, lasik waiver, etc….), and there is a 31E position open. So I could actually enlist if I do so ASAP before policy changes on April 1st.

    I’ve read as much as I can find on-line about MOS 31E - Corrections Specialist

    Please share you experiences.

    This would be a reserve position, and I would be burying both my civilian LEO aspirations, as well as any Army Officer Commission aspirations.

    Thanks,
    Last edited by SCV-Sop; 03-21-2011, 04:32 PM.
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    "Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."

    "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
    - Cornelius Tacitus

  • #2
    Never mind, you said it was an open position.
    Last edited by jlink38; 03-21-2011, 04:13 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jlink38 View Post
      Never mind, you said it was an open position.
      Yes, I’ve learned quite a bit about trying to get in during the last 8 months.

      This is an open enlisted slot with a unit within driving distance from where I currently reside, and ships to Basic in July (per my recruiter). So once I say "yes" and call my recuriter he will work toward trying to get me in this slot and signed up before April 1.

      I'm really tossing a Hail Mary here. April 1 I will be to old for anything (officer/enlisted) because that is when the enlistment policy change takes effect.

      Doing so will also prevent me from keeping my Police Academy certificate current, and my academy certificate will be outside the renewal window by time I would be able to fit it in given an Army commitment.

      So this may be kind of it for me folks.

      I would like to know some insight about being MP-Corrections. This all got dumped on me today (finding out OCS is off the table, and have only a few days to determine if I will enlist, and then if I do, communicate that to my boss to arrange a sabbatical from July to November).
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      "Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."

      "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
      - Cornelius Tacitus

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      • #4
        If you are prior service, the Army just came out with new guidance stating that if you have more than a 3 year break in service.....you are going back to Basic Training.... No exceptions....

        Just an fyi....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
          If you are prior service, the Army just came out with new guidance stating that if you have more than a 3 year break in service.....you are going back to Basic Training.... No exceptions....

          Just an fyi....
          I'm not. I'm 38y/o job blow off the streets. The army is going back to the age limits prior to 9-11. March 7th was the officer change back, and April 1st will bet the enlisted change back.

          My timing is always perfectly wrong. If I enlist I will just barely sneak in because I'm sitting on an application that is complete with all the military approvals that I would need to enlist (prior to April 1st).
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          "Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."

          "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
          - Cornelius Tacitus

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          • #6
            I guess my question would be why the desperation to join the Military? at this age job issues? or Patriotism? or? sounds like u have your certs and a LE job on the outside.
            if the lights go on someone is paying the bill.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SCV-Sop View Post
              I'm not. I'm 38y/o job blow off the streets. The army is going back to the age limits prior to 9-11. March 7th was the officer change back, and April 1st will bet the enlisted change back.

              My timing is always perfectly wrong. If I enlist I will just barely sneak in because I'm sitting on an application that is complete with all the military approvals that I would need to enlist (prior to April 1st).
              Ok....just making sure. Chief of Staff just signed the stuff over the weekend.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by priorarmymp View Post
                I guess my question would be why the desperation to join the Military? at this age job issues? or Patriotism? or? sounds like u have your certs and a LE job on the outside.
                Timing and my age is causing desperation. I’m down to what I do in the next few days before all opportunity is closed to me.

                I do have my certs to be a civilian LEO.

                It’s a mixture of many things I guess, and it comes down to wanting to do more. Various paths were open at one time, and policy and economic conditions limit those options now.

                So while I can be a civilian LEO, I can’t be a federal one (age). At 38 with only a financial background that pretty much makes impracticable any civilian LEO job applications relative to those I am competing against at this time.

                I am guessing in the next 3 to 5 years someone of my age, experience and credentials simply isn’t going to have a realistic chance when applying to civilian LEO positions. However, if I were to spend those 3 to 5 years as a reservist MP that would tilt things in my favor.

                The question has come up in LEO interviews if I could follow direction from much younger supervisors. As much as I say yes, they still have to believe me. As a 39 year old E4 that question would be clearly answered.

                Independent of that motivation, up until high school a military career was all that I thought about. I even have a Congressional Nomination to Annapolis from Leon Panetta (all be it from 1991). It was my SATs scores that prevented entrance into a military academy, and Desert Storm was over before I graduated high school. The Soviets were out of the picture, and global terrorism in 1991 didn’t exist as it does today. Heck, even in 1995 after I finished college the world was different.

                Also, I wanted to FLY then, and my vision went south at age 16. So when I was 18 a military career seemed like it wasn’t practical. So I never pursed it and became a business professional.

                My respect and reverence for the military exits. This isn’t on a whim. This simply is my absolute last chance. Outside of this I might eventually become a civilian Reserve LEO, but I’m not holding my breath (not in California).

                If the military doesn’t happen I pretty much know what the rest of my life will be for the next 50+ years, but at least it wont be for a lack of trying.
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                "Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."

                "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
                - Cornelius Tacitus

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                • #9
                  Small career field, not many places to go, the job is what it is, you kick cages all day. Not a bad job, just not something for me.
                  It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SCV-Sop View Post
                    So while I can be a civilian LEO, I can’t be a federal one (age). At 38 with only a financial background that pretty much makes impracticable any civilian LEO job applications relative to those I am competing against at this time.
                    There are a few, very few, you may still be able to try up until age 40. The Border Patrol as of last announcement will take you if you are hired before age 40.
                    "Candidates must be referred for selection before reaching their 40th birthday."

                    The announcement is currently closed but keep looking at the open announcements (if they open) and check the ages. Most will be 37, but there a few that have 40. But, once again, if they open up again and you can get referred for selection before you turn 40.
                    In Process Apps:
                    LASD - 04/2015 Completed Out of State Testing
                    Passed Written, Fitness, Polygraph
                    08/2015 - Background Completed
                    09/2015 - Medical/Psych Scheduled

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                    • #11
                      Im not exactly sure if Army Corrections is similar to Marine Corps Corrections, but I do know quite a bit about the Marine Corps Corrections Field—5831. Morale there was probably the lowest that I've seen in the Marine Corps. The Marine Corps doesn't guarantee a specific MOS, just the broader occupational field. Since the Corrections MOS is in the Military Police field, most Marines signed up thinking they were going to patrol the streets and instead they were spending their days and nights in a dungeon-like Brig being glorified babysitters. The job is monotonous and thankless, just like in the civilian world, and it requires the person to be extremely self-motivated. It takes a certain breed of person to thrive in that environment.
                      Last edited by Re-Birth; 03-22-2011, 09:57 AM.
                      Never ask a man if he served in the Marine Corps! If he earned the title "Marine" he will tell you, if he didn't, there is no need to embarrass him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Re-Birth View Post
                        it requires the person to be extremely self-motivated. It takes a certain breed of person to thrive in that environment.
                        I agree. When my academy class toured the prison system I was glad I didn't get a Deputy gig. That was the last place I wanted to be as a LEO. It was like a Zoo. The smell stayed on you. The energy was sucked out of you. You see as much day light as the prisoners.

                        I won't be going 31E, I went another route. I guess the hint that 31E isn't pretty is that it came with a $30K education incentive, and my MOS only came with a $10K one or a 3 year deployment stablization promise.

                        Tuesday I go to MEPS, get weighed in, swear in, and sign the dotted line. Work has already been notified. I will ship in September.

                        Something can still happen though. I'll feel much better on Tuesday when it's done.
                        _____________
                        "Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."

                        "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
                        - Cornelius Tacitus

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                        • #13
                          What MOS did you choose?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jlink38 View Post
                            What MOS did you choose?
                            35F – Military Intelligence Analyst

                            So once again, back behind a computer.

                            But you know what I just realized. Totally unrelated to this thread, as I Californian I wont have to produce hand gun safety card to puchase a hand gun. Current and retired military are exempt. Haaaaaaaa.
                            _____________
                            "Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."

                            "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
                            - Cornelius Tacitus

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SCV-Sop View Post
                              35F – Military Intelligence Analyst

                              So once again, back behind a computer.

                              But you know what I just realized. Totally unrelated to this thread, as I Californian I wont have to produce hand gun safety card to puchase a hand gun. Current and retired military are exempt. Haaaaaaaa.
                              Excellent MOS. Promotion points are and have been in the 350 range now for a while. I think you will really enjoy the job.

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